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Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

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dank69 said:
Yeah the country sure won't elect a senile president. That's what they care about.
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You are in denial of how politics work. Politics is also theater. Biden looked weak as fuck, confused, never strong, losing it, fading.

Trump, as far as his dementia, looked and sounded much stronger.

Sure the media coverage was unfair as well but optics matter when it comes to how people look in the public eye. And Biden was clearly losing it and frail.

I am surprised people still don't get how basic politics can work. Optics and theater matter. Biden looked like shit, period. The majority of his OWN party's voters did NOT want him to run again. You know - THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE D, So he decided say a giant fuck you to his base and shut down a competitive primary, because that's the great kind of guy he was. Fuckin dementia gave Biden some sort of hero syndrome, he was ordained, he was the only one who could beat Trump - he was delusional holding on for so long after the debate too. It was gross.
 
MrSquished said:
You are in denial of how politics work. Politics is also theater. Biden looked weak as fuck, confused, never strong, losing it, fading.

Trump, as far as his dementia, looked and sounded much stronger.

Sure the media coverage was unfair as well but optics matter when it comes to how people look in the public eye. And Biden was clearly losing it and frail.

I am surprised people still don't get how basic politics can work. Optics and theater matter. Biden looked like shit, period. The majority of his OWN party's voters did NOT want him to run again. You know - THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE D, So he decided say a giant fuck you to his base and shut down a competitive primary, because that's the great kind of guy he was. Fuckin dementia gave Biden some sort of hero syndrome, he was ordained, he was the only one who could beat Trump - he was delusional holding on for so long after the debate too. It was gross.
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Maybe you're the one in denial about how politics work. Maybe politics is about who will never vote for you as much as it is about who you can convince to vote for you.
 
dank69 said:
Maybe you're the one in denial about how politics work. Maybe politics is about who will never vote for you as much as it is about who you can convince to vote for you.
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Okay so you are one of those stupid idiots, I didn't misremember your username.

You're literally saying it doesn't matter about making your candidate appealing, let alone not look fucking senile. Because there are no voters to get out there to the polls, anyone left would vote against you, there are no minds to be changed.

The fact is the Democratic party is leaving non-republican voters unmotivated due to corruption, gaslighting, and shitty candidates. And also because people are stupid, and you can get stupid people to vote with candidates which are more appealing. I mean do you know how fucking dumb your thought process is? Literally a guy who everybody in this party besides the cultists could see was losing it, and then the debate happens and you still double down on the candidate, and still say, the actual candidate didn't matter. Biden had the majority of his own party saying they didn't want him to run - and somehow having a better candidate would make no difference? How about one who your actual voters want?

That doesn't matter to you, it's all about people on the other side voting.

You don't exist in reality, and look at the winners the party you fervently defend has been picking lately. You are no fucking progressive at all. That's all just imagination in your head. You say you support progressive ideas but then support the kind of politics that suppresses progressives and their ideals and loses elections.

Again this is never been about getting Republicans to vote Democrat, it's about getting Democrats and Independents and apathetic voters out, and the Democrats suck at that, and you will defend them with every stupid piece of logic you can come up with. A third of eligible voters didn't show up, and a lot of them who had voted for Biden when he didn't look senile. And you think there are no voters to win from that with better candidates. As dumb as Maga

You are an establishment Democrat cultist in reality.
 
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Think about it - Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer put more sternness and effort than making sure the Dems did not do any protests but sit there like cucks, than they have for healthcare subsidies and fighting ICE, among other things.

It's amazing most of you aren't so fucking mad at these fuckers and trying to post ideas to fix these worthless shites. Definitely some of you are also quite mad at these fuckers, but a minority. We can all agree how evil MAGA is but we can't change them, but we can affect the opposition party. But nope, a bunch of Dem establishment bootlickers here. Even many of the so-called progressives. The fact the majority of you are cucks to the cucks who are the Dem party is fucking scary.

It's strange because most of the people I know in real life who are progressive can balance hating the evil that is MAGA and also despising the corrupt feckless establishment Dems at the same time who has helped us get to this point, put more energy into fighting progressives and progressive ideals than fighting the rise of MAGA, and are better at arming Israel for genocide than fighting for Americans.

Is there something in the water here?
 
Politicians are there to hold office and cast votes, if the majority leader allows.
You want them to be activists, street fighters, the opposition.

The men in these positions predate the fall of our Democracy. They are old, this new world isn't for them. They do not know it. They cannot comprehend it. They will never be good enough.
Replace them. Look to those who stand. Who act.
 
Jaskalas said:
Politicians are there to hold office and cast votes, if the majority leader allows.
You want them to be activists, street fighters, the opposition.

The men in these positions predate the fall of our Democracy. They are old, this new world isn't for them. They do not know it. They cannot comprehend it. They will never be good enough.
Replace them. Look to those who stand. Who act.
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I’m all for looking. But if your motive for looking is impelled by delusion the truth you will find is what is called confirmation bias. It amounts to looking with blinders. Let us first establish as absolute fact what you state as such but is merely your opinion. When you say, “The men in these positions predate the fall of our Democracy. They are old, this new world isn't for them. They do not know it. They cannot comprehend it. They will never be good enough.”, please prove these declarations as absolutes. I hear so many calls to action each couched as though no other view could be right. Why would yours be any different. Am I a lemming that I should run off your cliff, and have you no shame that you call to act might lead over one? What if you are a fanatic doing a virtue signaling dance, unaware that the aim is self importance.

What if the real issue is that you are already important and just don’t know it is the action you need to undertake. Just a thought.
 
MrSquished said:
Okay so you are one of those stupid idiots, I didn't misremember your username.

You're literally saying it doesn't matter about making your candidate appealing, let alone not look fucking senile. Because there are no voters to get out there to the polls, anyone left would vote against you, there are no minds to be changed.

The fact is the Democratic party is leaving non-republican voters unmotivated due to corruption, gaslighting, and shitty candidates. And also because people are stupid, and you can get stupid people to vote with candidates which are more appealing. I mean do you know how fucking dumb your thought process is? Literally a guy who everybody in this party besides the cultists could see was losing it, and then the debate happens and you still double down on the candidate, and still say, the actual candidate didn't matter. Biden had the majority of his own party saying they didn't want him to run - and somehow having a better candidate would make no difference? How about one who your actual voters want?

That doesn't matter to you, it's all about people on the other side voting.

You don't exist in reality, and look at the winners the party you fervently defend has been picking lately. You are no fucking progressive at all. That's all just imagination in your head. You say you support progressive ideas but then support the kind of politics that suppresses progressives and their ideals and loses elections.

Again this is never been about getting Republicans to vote Democrat, it's about getting Democrats and Independents and apathetic voters out, and the Democrats suck at that, and you will defend them with every stupid piece of logic you can come up with. A third of eligible voters didn't show up, and a lot of them who had voted for Biden when he didn't look senile. And you think there are no voters to win from that with better candidates. As dumb as Maga

You are an establishment Democrat cultist in reality.
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You need to learn what the word maybe means. You can't have a productive discussion with anyone until you understand basic words.
 
i don't need a perfect candidate, i just need one that doesn't retweet/endorse nazi's and had a totenkopf tattoo for 10+years until he decided to run for office


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-Stewart Peters is an American alt-right internet personality. He is known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation and conspiracy theories, homophobia, transphobia, and antisemitic and white supremacist beliefs such as Holocaust denial

/and him saying he had no idea what that meant is a fucking lie
 
KMFJD said:
i don't need a perfect candidate, i just need one that doesn't retweet/endorse nazi's and had a totenkopf tattoo for 10+years until he decided to run for office


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-Stewart Peters is an American alt-right internet personality. He is known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation and conspiracy theories, homophobia, transphobia, and antisemitic and white supremacist beliefs such as Holocaust denial

/and him saying he had no idea what that meant is a fucking lie
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1) This is why you should just stay off Twitter/X. Hang out in a Nazi bar enough, and you'll eventually start talking to Nazis, even if you're not sure that someone is a Nazi when you run past their seemingly innocuous post - that's how they suck people in
2) This guy has way too many red flags (including the 18 years he had a totenkompf; his edgelord Reddit posts from only a few years ago; etc); what other skeletons are going to fall out of this guy's closet. Disappointingly, many people online are quick to hand wave those flags away (many are even trying to do the "dubious polling says X, so they should just clear the field" nonsense)
3) "Both sides"ing things is moronic, and it is especially moronic when you need to convince people in one of those parties to vote for you in a primary so that you can then run on that party's ballot line. Don't be a wrecker.
4) The primary is in June and candidates have until early March to declare; campaigning is just getting started.
5) The primary also uses rank-choice voting and there are multiple candidates declared. Here's an example of someone who is not Mills running as a Democratic candidate, with a bonus of not having any Nazi tattoos: https://www.pressherald.com/2026/02...the-woman-behind-it-is-running-for-us-senate/
 
MrSquished said:
Think about it - Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer put more sternness and effort than making sure the Dems did not do any protests but sit there like cucks, than they have for healthcare subsidies and fighting ICE, among other things.

It's amazing most of you aren't so fucking mad at these fuckers and trying to post ideas to fix these worthless shites. Definitely some of you are also quite mad at these fuckers, but a minority. We can all agree how evil MAGA is but we can't change them, but we can affect the opposition party. But nope, a bunch of Dem establishment bootlickers here. Even many of the so-called progressives. The fact the majority of you are cucks to the cucks who are the Dem party is fucking scary.

It's strange because most of the people I know in real life who are progressive can balance hating the evil that is MAGA and also despising the corrupt feckless establishment Dems at the same time who has helped us get to this point, put more energy into fighting progressives and progressive ideals than fighting the rise of MAGA, and are better at arming Israel for genocide than fighting for Americans.

Is there something in the water here?
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Dude, many of us share or at least “lean toward” your beliefs but we’re just sick of your schtick. You’re like a broken record. Enough already, we know where you stand. I’m sick of this crabs-in-a-bucket mentality of shitting on everyone else stuck in this mess with you.

https://bsky.app/profile/whstancil.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mf2tktcgkc24

Also, half of the anger you harbor to “the Democratic establishment” should be aimed at the mainstream press, the donor class, the consultant class, and all the policy wonks who aren’t actually helping Dems get elected and keep holding any real fighters (read: “too far-left/too progressive”) down. Progressives need to stick to their guns and stop listening to bad advice about “electability”. Stop hiring media consultants and start listening to real people again.

LoL: Even the NYT is coming around to this, but of course their coverage of this fact post focus group will be muted.
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NYT Focus Group Reveals Voters Want Progressive Democrats and Fighters!

Contrary to establishment talking points, vibes, and overall nonsense, the polls and focus groups reveal voters want Democrats to adopt progressive policies and aggressively fight fascism.
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Oldest Congress we've ever had.

I still can't believe Chuck Grassley is running again. That guy was born in 1933! He's clearly not getting enough oxygen upstairs, though that's practically a GQP requirement at this point I suppose. These people are passing laws that can affect citizens for decades. They should be tested for drugs and dementia. Senescence is a biological fact for 100% of the human population. If we account for the deficiencies of youth wrt elected office we need to account for the deficiencies of advanced age. People with power and failing mental faculties are taken advantage of. Kind of how it works with the 'all is fair in love and politics' crowd I'm afraid.
 
kage69 said:
Oldest Congress we've ever had.

I still can't believe Chuck Grassley is running again. That guy was born in 1933! He's clearly not getting enough oxygen upstairs, though that's practically a GQP requirement at this point I suppose. These people are passing laws that can affect citizens for decades. They should be tested for drugs and dementia. Senescence is a biological fact for 100% of the human population. If we account for the deficiencies of youth wrt elected office we need to account for the deficiencies of advanced age. People with power and failing mental faculties are taken advantage of. Kind of how it works with the 'all is fair in love and politics' crowd I'm afraid.
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At a minimum they should be required to take the cognitive test Dump always brags about. That would get rid of four of five at least.
 
what's up with the radio silence from aoc while the US slaughters innocents in Iran?

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i'd check twitter but you assholes say its the nazi bar
 
 
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