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News Intel GPUs - we've given up on B770, where's Celestial already

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poke01 said:
I disagree. With handhelds now becoming mainstream, iGPUs are just as important as dGPUs now especially for low power gaming.
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This is why history rhymes as they say. Same mistakes happen over and over and over again. Everyone has to learn on their own.

Intel had zero reason to not do better with 80% marketshare. Yet they did not. Cause they had nobody pushing them. If they are not selling it direct, then it doesn't matter. Even with Xe3 on Pantherlake, it'll be a nice addon to the CPU for most people.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
I always enjoy TAP talks. ARC is improving fast.
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Yeah

@ 38:18
Um, we're we're going to be focusing much more on handheld and notebook style. I know Nvidia's kind of uh doing discrete desk, you know, kind of and you know, who knows? Yeah, who knows? Well, who knows? They they they made an investment. They did.
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It's sort of casual conversation but seriously if they don't try gaming/PRO dGPUs with Xe3p it will potentially hurt driver/software development and adoption for gaming, Pro, AI/ML, etc. The learning towards dGPU platform/physical design too halts/falls behind. Integrated GPU development is good but dGPU and Halo type SKUs could help along the way.

DavidC1 said:
It's just like the fab utilization argument. Intel needs to move products back to their fab as fast as possible.
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Seems like more tiles/products in the upcoming products could be moved to use TSMC than previously planned. Let's see.
 
regen1 said:
It's sort of casual conversation but seriously if they don't try gaming/PRO dGPUs with Xe3p it will potentially hurt driver/software development and adoption for gaming, Pro, AI/ML, etc. The learning towards dGPU platform/physical design too halts/falls behind. Integrated GPU development is good but dGPU and Halo type SKUs could help along the way.
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Tan's 50% gross margin edict. Outsourcing production. ARC having a negative ROI. Nvidia having 90% of the market. Doesn't paint a pretty picture. Does Tan&Co. have the vision to stay the course, and keep investing in discrete graphics? Or do they tap out? Man would Tom love to say he called it years ago, Celestial would be when you could put a fork in discrete ARC.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
Tan's 50% gross margin edict. Outsourcing production. ARC having a negative ROI. Nvidia having 90% of the market. Doesn't paint a pretty picture. Does Tan&Co. have the vision to stay the course, and keep investing in discrete graphics? Or do they tap out?
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We'll know if some dGPUs(not counting inference accelerators like stuff) or Halo SKUs(if not NVL-AX may be next gen) are launched with their next Gen IPs.
Nvidia-deal picture would become clearer later.
(They could still release more gaming B-series(G31 based) SKUs and it could may be create some splash but it's sort of late)

In the meanwhile, G31 support added in Open Image Denoise 2.4
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DavidC1 said:
Yea, they got a winner here. It's 82% in native rendering, and 50% per watt compared to Lunarlake.

old.chipsandcheese.com

Looking Ahead at Intel’s Xe3 GPU Architecture

Intel’s foray into high performance graphics has enjoyed impressive progress over the past few years, and the company is not letting up on the gas. Tom Peterson from Intel has indicated that …
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The dynamic register allocation can improve further according to their overview.

The problem with Xe3P is that it's at least a year away, and that's for iGPUs. How long for their dGPU if ever?
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Intel Crescent Island is a Xe3P dGPU that starts sampling 2H 2026 with customers. Obviously, it is not a consumer GPU though.
 
Celestial dGPU should still be released:

They are too late on B770, even if it pops tomorrow, it'll take few months for the RAM prices to come down.
 
www.cnbc.com

Intel is moving into GPUs and has hired a chief architect, CEO Lip-Bu Tan says

Nvidia and AMD are leaders in the GPUs, which power large language models and have skyrocketed in demand with the data center buildout.
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Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan said Tuesday that the chipmaker has appointed a new chief architect to build out graphics processing units, or GPUs.

Tan told the audience at the Cisco AI Summit that it took “some persuasion” to convince the new executive to join the chipmaker. Tan did not name the new hire.
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coercitiv said:
www.cnbc.com

Intel is moving into GPUs and has hired a chief architect, CEO Lip-Bu Tan says

Nvidia and AMD are leaders in the GPUs, which power large language models and have skyrocketed in demand with the data center buildout.
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A bit confusing, isn't he referring to Eric Demers or is it about another new hire ?
www.crn.com

Intel Hires Qualcomm Executive To Lead GPU Engineering For Data Centers

Intel has hired a Qualcomm executive who led the rival’s GPU engineering efforts to aid with the semiconductor giant’s latest attempt at building AI chips for data centers.
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regen1 said:
A bit confusing, isn't he referring to Eric Demers or is it about another new hire ?
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I was hoping more details would surface since I saw this article in the morning, as the quote itself is very open to interpretation, especially given the event LBT was attending.
 
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