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NBA "owner" Controversy

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SlowSpyder

Lifer
https://www.dailywire.com/news/47991/nba-teams-looking-drop-owner-title-amid-concerns-emily-zanotti

https://nypost.com/2019/06/03/nba-teams-moving-away-from-owner-title/

In yet another example of creating racism where there was none, the NBA in their virtuous ways are dropping the term "owner" to describe the person that owns the team. Governor, chairman, managing partner... new terms will be used. So virtuous. Only a fool would suggest that the term "owner" would mean that the players are owned. If I worked for a small company that had a single owner, I worked for the owner. No one in their right mind would question whether or not I am property of that person or an employee, but this is the world we live in, the inmates run the asylum.

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fskimospy said:
Hey snowflake, how about you let them call themselves whatever they want, it doesn’t affect you in the slightest.

It is frankly amazing how easily triggered you are by even the smallest thing.
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I am letting them call themselves whatever they want. I went so far as to make a post about it. I don't care what they label the owners as, I just think the reasoning for the change is plain silly.
 
SlowSpyder said:
I am letting them call themselves whatever they want. I went so far as to make a post about it. I don't care what they label the owners as, I just think the reasoning for the change is plain silly.
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You clearly do care, you made a post dedicated to whining about it.

You’re going to have a tough time in life if you get triggered by something as small as a business owner changing their title. Take a step back and think about how crazy that is. Why do you give a single, solitary shit?
 
fskimospy said:
You clearly do care, you made a post dedicated to whining about it.

You’re going to have a tough time in life if you get triggered by something as small as a business owner changing their title. Take a step back and think about how crazy that is. Why do you give a single, solitary shit?
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They are free to call themselves what they want, no one is arguing that or trying to stop that. I think the reasoning for the change is stupid, however. Conditioning from the left, the world they've created where they're just looking to build racism out of anything.
 
SlowSpyder said:
They are free to call themselves what they want, no one is arguing that or trying to stop that. I think the reasoning for the change is stupid, however. Conditioning from the left, the world they've created where they're just looking to build racism out of anything.
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So to be clear, the guy who says he doesn’t care about what they call themselves wants to let us know that changing what they call themselves is part of a global mental conditioning by the left. Something he clearly freaks out about at every turn.

Lol. It honestly must be horrible to live in a world where everything, literally everything no matter how small triggers you into a rage that you have to go scream about.

You made a thread outraged about... sports owners changing their title to...chairman. That’s how pathetic it has gotten.
 
I think its stupid as hell. It's more PC gone amuck.

We have panels labeled as master and slave well one person got his panties in a wad . One ignorant fuck. Those labels are industry wide and have nothing to do with human slavery.
 
OP falsely blaming the left when it was the players who wanted the term change.

OP thinks he can dictate how people refer to themselves.
 
SlowSpyder said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/47991/nba-teams-looking-drop-owner-title-amid-concerns-emily-zanotti

https://nypost.com/2019/06/03/nba-teams-moving-away-from-owner-title/

In yet another example of creating racism where there was none, the NBA in their virtuous ways are dropping the term "owner" to describe the person that owns the team. Governor, chairman, managing partner... new terms will be used. So virtuous. Only a fool would suggest that the term "owner" would mean that the players are owned. If I worked for a small company that had a single owner, I worked for the owner. No one in their right mind would question whether or not I am property of that person or an employee, but this is the world we live in, the inmates run the asylum.
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Its political correctness and from a few knuckleheads
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
It's dumb but not as bad as Trump claiming he's wiped out 150% of China's economy.

Also, I don't care what the owners call themselves. Might be Bananas Foster. OP cares though.
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I won't speak on behalf of @SlowSpyder although it seems that most people here don't share some tension around doing so.

I do think that it is wrong to sow left-right divisions here, but they are being reinforced with the behavior displayed in the thread. That's unfortunate. It provides some validity to the idea that such attention to politically correct terminology is a liberal issue.

While I agree that I don't care what owners want to call themselves, this is a case where they are capitulating to social pressure which I think needs a place for challenge. Just because this particular example lacks any significant ramifications doesn't mean it shouldn't spark debate. I think the lack of a true discourse on this kind of issue nationally is a big reason why Trump is so appealing to so many. Maybe he wouldn't be president if people like @SlowSpyder were shown more respect. Not necessarily agreement. I disagree with nearly everything he posts here, but I do respect his contribution and advocate for his right to be heard no differently than anyone else.
 
interchange said:
I won't speak on behalf of @SlowSpyder although it seems that most people here don't share some tension around doing so.

I do think that it is wrong to sow left-right divisions here, but they are being reinforced with the behavior displayed in the thread. That's unfortunate. It provides some validity to the idea that such attention to politically correct terminology is a liberal issue.

While I agree that I don't care what owners want to call themselves, this is a case where they are capitulating to social pressure which I think needs a place for challenge. Just because this particular example lacks any significant ramifications doesn't mean it shouldn't spark debate. I think the lack of a true discourse on this kind of issue nationally is a big reason why Trump is so appealing to so many. Maybe he wouldn't be president if people like @SlowSpyder were shown more respect. Not necessarily agreement. I disagree with nearly everything he posts here, but I do respect his contribution and advocate for his right to be heard no differently than anyone else.
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Meh, conservatives only care when it doesn't go their way. The free market didn't jive with their feels, so spark the outrage fire, it's a party.
 
In the world of stupid this thread is a waste of space, except for the zoo perspective of observing Slow in his natural habitat ... alas we have so much already.
 
interchange said:
I won't speak on behalf of @SlowSpyder although it seems that most people here don't share some tension around doing so.

I do think that it is wrong to sow left-right divisions here, but they are being reinforced with the behavior displayed in the thread. That's unfortunate. It provides some validity to the idea that such attention to politically correct terminology is a liberal issue.

While I agree that I don't care what owners want to call themselves, this is a case where they are capitulating to social pressure which I think needs a place for challenge. Just because this particular example lacks any significant ramifications doesn't mean it shouldn't spark debate. I think the lack of a true discourse on this kind of issue nationally is a big reason why Trump is so appealing to so many. Maybe he wouldn't be president if people like @SlowSpyder were shown more respect. Not necessarily agreement. I disagree with nearly everything he posts here, but I do respect his contribution and advocate for his right to be heard no differently than anyone else.
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I have no desire to kick him off the forums. That said, one earns respect and that is not limited to an individual post or thread. Having a contrary opinion to the established norm here would be commendable, IF and only if there is a factual basis to support it. Personally I have no fear of words, even those we can't type here if understood in a context with a purpose other than attacking a minority, as an example.

People have become too sensitive IMO and punishment for violating their standards sometimes goes overboard. But Trump having an appeal on that? OK, he's not afraid to call a spade a spade as it were in any context one might name. That's hardly the point because there's an inherent viciousness and dishonesty, being "real" by invoking lies which are swallowed whole. That is not reasonable concern about the limits of PC, but it among other things supports a justified impression of the embrace of authoritarianism. If you look back at the first half of the last century the parallels are striking and acceptance led to Nazis and Il Duce. Evil prospered because good men decided that people decided to let it go without sufficient challenge.

Therefore you should expect that while embracing such philosophies is permitted and expressed in not so veiled sentiments here, it should be expected that there will be harsh condemnation and suspicion justly warranted by history.

You could create a thread about how far is too far and I'd be happy to weigh in as I suspect others would and with less prejudice since you do not a demonstrated support for a reprehensible agenda.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
I have no desire to kick him off the forums. That said, one earns respect and that is not limited to an individual post or thread. Having a contrary opinion to the established norm here would be commendable, IF and only if there is a factual basis to support it. Personally I have no fear of words, even those we can't type here if understood in a context with a purpose other than attacking a minority, as an example.

People have become too sensitive IMO and punishment for violating their standards sometimes goes overboard. But Trump having an appeal on that? OK, he's not afraid to call a spade a spade as it were in any context one might name. That's hardly the point because there's an inherent viciousness and dishonesty, being "real" by invoking lies which are swallowed whole. That is not reasonable concern about the limits of PC, but it among other things supports a justified impression of the embrace of authoritarianism. If you look back at the first half of the last century the parallels are striking and acceptance led to Nazis and Il Duce. Evil prospered because good men decided that people decided to let it go without sufficient challenge.

Therefore you should expect that while embracing such philosophies is permitted and expressed in not so veiled sentiments here, it should be expected that there will be harsh condemnation and suspicion justly warranted by history.

You could create a thread about how far is too far and I'd be happy to weigh in as I suspect others would and with less prejudice since you do not a demonstrated support for a reprehensible agenda.
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The issue, I'd say, is simply that Slow's habitual dishonesty extends to breaking the principles of good faith on forums (I won't make a judgment on whether or not he's breaking forum rules). Posting topics that intentionally misrepresent the nature of an issue, for example. And while there's no stipulation that you have to be accurate or amenable to reason, it's hard to have constructive forum discussions with someone who will lie about things that are literally on the record.
 
HomerJS said:
OP falsely blaming the left when it was the players who wanted the term change.

OP thinks he can dictate how people refer to themselves.
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I'm saying it is the environment the left has created. Because the left only sees minorities as different categories of victims to exploit, we've gone from being reasonably sensitive to racism and bigotry to being so hyper-sensitive that just about everything can be warped into some form of bigotry, it'll be manufactured where there was none. For those of us that simply see each other as equals, it seems rather inane.
 
Commodus said:
The issue, I'd say, is simply that Slow's habitual dishonesty extends to breaking the principles of good faith on forums (I won't make a judgment on whether or not he's breaking forum rules). Posting topics that intentionally misrepresent the nature of an issue, for example. And while there's no stipulation that you have to be accurate or amenable to reason, it's hard to have constructive forum discussions with someone who will lie about things that are literally on the record.
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I am not being dishonest, not here or anywhere. How am I intentionally misrepresenting the nature of this issue?
 
interchange said:
I won't speak on behalf of @SlowSpyder although it seems that most people here don't share some tension around doing so.

I do think that it is wrong to sow left-right divisions here, but they are being reinforced with the behavior displayed in the thread. That's unfortunate. It provides some validity to the idea that such attention to politically correct terminology is a liberal issue.

While I agree that I don't care what owners want to call themselves, this is a case where they are capitulating to social pressure which I think needs a place for challenge. Just because this particular example lacks any significant ramifications doesn't mean it shouldn't spark debate. I think the lack of a true discourse on this kind of issue nationally is a big reason why Trump is so appealing to so many. Maybe he wouldn't be president if people like @SlowSpyder were shown more respect. Not necessarily agreement. I disagree with nearly everything he posts here, but I do respect his contribution and advocate for his right to be heard no differently than anyone else.
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I have gotten very tired of the ‘conservatives voted for Trump because liberals were mean to them’ argument. There is not one single shred of empirical evidence for this.

Related, despite the vastly more toxic and vitriolic treatment of liberals by conservative media spanning decades you never see the opposite argument that in order to prevent Democrats from being elected conservatives should be nicer to liberals.

As others said, respect is earned and not given and Spidey’s habitual dishonesty has squandered the default respect that people get. I do not respect his contribution because it is made in manifestly bad faith. Deciding to respect purposeful liars in the same way as honest brokers is part of the disease, not the cure.
 
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