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US defense insider: Trump Has Already Rigged the 2028 Presidential Election’

What do you think? Sound feasible. I think they are all legitimate concerns
After Jan 6th, 2021, I expect nothing less.
The consequences of this, and what it means for civil discourse...
No, I do not think the Democrat Party is prepared for this.

At "best", in 2029 I expect protestors will be mowed down like in Iran.
At "worst", there will be less of a disruption and more of a complete take over. A bloodless coup.
We will not defend our neighbors today, why would that change tomorrow?
 
What do you think? Sound feasible. I think they are all legitimate concerns


That's some real scary shit if true. After perusing the article, the 2024 election results make much more sense to me now.

The DNC had better be more than suspiciously alert as far as monitoring the polls goes, up to and including having the voting machines being certified accurate by people that are above suspicion. Reason being, the Republicans know for a fact that they are going to be smacked pretty hard in the mid-terms so they will attempt to convince the voters that the vote was rigged against them badly enough to have Trump suspend the elections and declare martial law, of which they've already been doggedly pursuing different ways to do just that.

It seems to me the problem won't exclusively be one where the Republicans will rig the elections in their favor. Rather they will, in some critical contestable states and districts rig the election in the Democrat's favor, expose how it was done and blame the Democrats for doing it from which their ultimate goal of declaring martial law in those states as well as being able for Trump to do nationwide can happen.
 
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Even after J6? Didn’t people try to tell us he would never try to stay after losing and that is exactly what he did?
I think messing directly with the elections is difficult given the highly decentralized nature and that Trump has no formal powers in this arena (aka, arenas where he only has a waning force of personality). People should still be vigilant for bullshit, and I wouldn't out it past him to try something funny.

But I think "think pieces" by these pundits are not very useful or insightful and are just meat for people stuck in perpetual doomerism.
 
I think messing directly with the elections is difficult given the highly decentralized nature and that Trump has no formal powers in this arena (aka, arenas where he only has a waning force of personality). People should still be vigilant for bullshit, and I wouldn't out it past him to try something funny.

But I think "think pieces" by these pundits are not very useful or insightful and are just meat for people stuck in perpetual doomerism.
People thought Project 2025 and all of us who pulled the fire alarms about it were engaged in doomerism yet here we are
 
People thought Project 2025 and all of us who pulled the fire alarms about it were engaged in doomerism yet here we are
Project 2025 was real, and it was a credulous media who downplayed it. The Heritage Plans should always be taken seriously as a conservative wishlist for executive action.

And one thing in the past coming to fruition doesn't mean that something some rando speculates about is also going to come to fruition.
 
Project 2025 was real, and it was a credulous media who downplayed it. The Heritage Plans should always be taken seriously as a conservative wishlist for executive action.

And one thing in the past coming to fruition doesn't mean that something some rando speculates about is also going to come to fruition.
Ahh. “ peace in our time”. I’ve heard that before. Just because he tried it before he definitely won’t try it again.

Methinks we will be revisiting this thread again the closer we get to 2026. Or as each roadblock is out in front of people the closer to the vote
 
Ahh. “ peace in our time”. I’ve heard that before. Just because he tried it before he definitely won’t try it again.

Methinks we will be revisiting this thread again the closer we get to 2026. Or as each roadblock is out in front of people the closer to the vote
They're doing a pretty shitty job if they can't even mess with smaller scale special elections that they're getting blown away in.
 
I peed my pants. But as a person who hates himself, good news. It’s what I deserve. My unconscious has been hard at work to make this happen. I just hope I can take everybody else down with me. Caldron caldron boil and bubble. My misery needs your company. Let’s wallow in how bad it will be. If one of us dies I’m going to Paris.
 
You also pretend Jan 6th meant nothing?
And from there... you pretending nothing else is happening now?

In spite of all recent events. Court granting total immunity. Congress derelict in duty. A nation ruled by executive order alone. Military on the streets, complimented by a personal goon squad. Shooting detained and disarmed Americans in the back, or when running away. This shit is real. But what, this topic is a step too far? After Jan 6th? Bullshit @Moonbeam .
 
They're doing a pretty shitty job if they can't even mess with smaller scale special elections that they're getting blown away in.
I would submit, small election rigging is easier to investigate. Also, you wouldn't want to give up the gameplan on 1 local election.

Election rigging is about effecting the margins. 1/4 here, 1/2 point somewhere else. Also, national elections have multiple chokepoints you can tamper with. Closing polling places, changing early voting rules. Do you really think Trump's current stooge playing postmaster general is beyond separating out ballots and effecting their delivery. They've already changed the postmarking date rules. Trump tried to seize voting machines in 2020 and now he signed an E.O. stating he can use the military to steal voting machines. You could say courts will stop this but as SCOTUS has shown you have to wait for something to happen before taking it to court. Meanwhile Trump causes the damage, and it takes too much time for the courts to settle the case.
 
IMO the notion that voting is essentially controlled by a private corporation is a situation that should be a complete no-brainer to avoid at any cost.

Now imagine that said corporation is owned by a well-known person with connections to the Democratic party. The train of GQP-created conspiracy theories would never end!
 
I would submit, small election rigging is easier to investigate. Also, you wouldn't want to give up the gameplan on 1 local election.

Election rigging is about effecting the margins. 1/4 here, 1/2 point somewhere else. Also, national elections have multiple chokepoints you can tamper with. Closing polling places, changing early voting rules. Do you really think Trump's current stooge playing postmaster general is beyond separating out ballots and effecting their delivery. They've already changed the postmarking date rules. Trump tried to seize voting machines in 2020 and now he signed an E.O. stating he can use the military to steal voting machines. You could say courts will stop this but as SCOTUS has shown you have to wait for something to happen before taking it to court. Meanwhile Trump causes the damage, and it takes too much time for the courts to settle the case.

An unconsolidated regime stealing the election probably ends up like maidan. And Trump in a shallow grave or Moscow.
 
This seems like doomerism and also seems to not fully grasp how this stuff works. First, using dominion to manipulate the election how, exactly? There are paper trails for this exact reason.

Second, the guy doesn’t understand probability, haha. Each event is almost certainly heavily correlated with one another and he treats them as independent coin flips. This is a basic analytic error.
 
This seems like doomerism and also seems to not fully grasp how this stuff works. First, using dominion to manipulate the election how, exactly? There are paper trails for this exact reason.

There are paper trails for all kinds of things, but in a sane world you don't put people in charge of stuff when their well-known bias could affect something of paramount importance, or for example you wouldn't let a person with shady finances into public office. The fact of the matter is that every system has a vulnerability so you put in more safeguards rather than assuming that say a paper trail is going to save you.
 
There are paper trails for all kinds of things, but in a sane world you don't put people in charge of stuff when their well-known bias could affect something of paramount importance, or for example you wouldn't let a person with shady finances into public office. The fact of the matter is that every system has a vulnerability so you put in more safeguards rather than assuming that say a paper trail is going to save you.
We have lots of safeguards though. I don't think falsification of the vote is a very practical way to steal the election.
 
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