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GeForce GTX 750 ti or Radeon RX 460?

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Robert Berry said:
gtx 750 or 750ti?
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whatever you can find cheaper with no power connector. It wont matter with your cpu.

I just wanted to say , its nice what your doing for that kid, I'm sorry , I know I opened a can of worms, but I didn't want you to throw money away.

Before you try to throw a quad core cpu in a Dell, you might want to update the bios and make sure it will work on the Dell motherboard.

Edit:
I see the Dell 760 can use a quad core, upgrade the bios through dell.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-2-83GHZ-Windows-DVD-BURNER/dp/B00E79XLV0
 
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happy medium said:
whatever you can find cheaper with no power connector. It wont matter with your cpu.

I just wanted to say , its nice what your doing for that kid, I'm sorry , I know I opened a can of worms, but I didn't want you to throw money away.

Before you try to throw a quad core cpu in a Dell, you might want to update the bios and make sure it will work on the Dell motherboard.
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how would i update the bios, and how would i make sure it works on the Dell motherboard? Also, doesn't the default gtx 750ti already come without a power connector?
 
Oh, and I just want to point out what you are doing is very commendable. I'm sure no matter what he gets he will be grateful.
 
Robert Berry said:
how would i update the bios, and how would i make sure it works on the Dell motherboard? Also, doesn't the default gtx 750ti already come without a power connector?
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Ok its been a long time since I've had a Dell but here we go.
On the back of the computer is a service tag number. write it down, with the full name of the computer.
So it will be OptiPlex 760, "service tag number ". on Dell's support page.
I would update the chipset drivers and upgrade to the latest bios.

Here is a link to the support page.
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/dhs?ST=dell support&dgc=ST&cid=297767&lid=5693629&acd=123098073120600&ven1=9flN4Yxx&ven2=e&ven3=772503147319888828

Ahh I see they have a auto detect option, I would try that.
 
happy medium said:
whatever you can find cheaper with no power connector. It wont matter with your cpu.

I just wanted to say , its nice what your doing for that kid, I'm sorry , I know I opened a can of worms, but I didn't want you to throw money away.

Before you try to throw a quad core cpu in a Dell, you might want to update the bios and make sure it will work on the Dell motherboard.

Edit:
I see the Dell 760 can use a quad core, upgrade the bios through dell.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-2-83GHZ-Windows-DVD-BURNER/dp/B00E79XLV0
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thank you for the update, i know my next question may sound dumb but trust me i know absolutely nothing about computers or gaming, I used this old one for work back in 2009: the gtx 750ti is a ddr5, does a ddr5 card run with ddr2 memory?
 
A GTX750 ot GTX750TI might be a better choice even if a RX460 or GTX1050 is faster,as people need to consider if the newer cards will be compatible with such an old motherboard.
 
Ehm, NVidia cards don't have lower overhead. If anything, they have more due to relying upon the CPU as a software scheduler. The only scenarios where NVidia cards can handle more draw calls, are:

1. When the game uses OpenGL
2. When the game uses Direct3D 11 AND uses driver command lists

For older games (e.g, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas, Freespace 2, etc. etc.), an AMD card is going to be mighty dandy, and will have noice driver support unlike NVidia.
 
MajinCry said:
Ehm, NVidia cards don't have lower overhead. If anything, they have more due to relying upon the CPU as a software scheduler. The only scenarios where NVidia cards can handle more draw calls, are:

1. When the game uses OpenGL
2. When the game uses Direct3D 11 AND uses driver command lists

For older games (e.g, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas, Freespace 2, etc. etc.), an AMD card is going to be mighty dandy, and will have noice driver support unlike NVidia.
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you need to read the whole thread.
 
What's your budget, assuming you haven't purchased yet? By the time you buy more RAM, Windows, etc, you can just as easily buy a refurbished Dell i5 quad-core with 4GB RAM from eBay. Drop in the same GPU and get much better performance. Probably combined total <$200 if you go used.
 
I would just buy 1 stick of 4GB DDR2 RAM that matches the speed of your existing stick, and the cheapest used 750 or 750 ti you can find, and leave it at that
 
Actually, when I get home today I'll check if i've got some old DDR2 laying around. Pretty sure I do. I'd just send you it for free to help the kid out.
 
You'd be better off spending that $100 (plus a tiny bit more) on an AMD A8-7600 APU, mobo and 8GB RAM.

That e8400 2GB Vista is just woefully insufficient, I'm sorry.

Unless you can find 8GB DDR2 for $10 or something, the effort is wasted.

That said, it's better than nothing! E8400 8GB + GTX 1050TI is half-decent and the card will still rock when the base system can be replaced with something newer.

Hey, whoever might have that cheap DDR2 might also have a cheap used video card to throw in. He can at least play some minecraft or older games or something. 🙂
 
Headfoot said:
I would just buy 1 stick of 4GB DDR2 RAM that matches the speed of your existing stick, and the cheapest used 750 or 750 ti you can find, and leave it at that
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4GB DDR2 was super-rare, really expensive, and often only worked in servers. Pretty much stuck with 2GB sticks and a ceiling of 8GB if he's lucky enough to have four slots instead of two.
 
Even though the suggested cards (any of them) will be more than enough for this old Dell system, I would opt for the card that will give you the biggest ROI when you inevitability buy a new PC in a year or two. That way you can toss the old card in the new PC and take proper advantage of it. The 750 Ti is starting to show its age but still holds up well. If buying new I would opt for the 1050 or RX460 over the 750 Ti for this reason (as well as better resale value). The performance difference between the 750 Ti and the RX460 or 1050 will become much more apparent when not starved for CPU cycles. Between the 1050 and Rx460 I would say go with whatever is cheapest *however* given you are working with a small budget and you will likely upgrade eventually, I would recommend the RX460 only because it can take advantage of Freesynsc. 21 - 24" Freesync displays are dirt cheap and should give you a better overall gaming experience. The Geforce cards don't have support for Freesync and the performance differences between the RX460 and 1050 would matter less than having adaptive frame sync.
 
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