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Where can I buy a coffeelake 6 core?

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krumme said:
The pure numbers at retailers is next to none. 130 pcx sold for 8700k and 12 pcx 8700 for one of the biggest rerailer in germany. 3000 newegg. Now out of stock. Give me a break about demand. Yes there is a huge demand and its damn fine processors. But thats not why there is no processors and we both know why. This is a paperlaunch as clear as it can be. There is NO processors. NONE. And it wasnt demand. End rant but this excuse crap is tiredsome.
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Sorry, but paper launch means just that to me. Nothing but paper. There were a few 8700K out there so it was an extremely limited quantity launch versus a nothing but paper launch. Whatever floats the partisan boat I say.
 
Since there were actual Coffee Lake CPUs available at the launch date, and vendors are shipping them to costumers as soon as soon as they get in, then this is not a paper launch.

The 8400 is a very compelling CPU to purchase if one is in the market for building a new PC. However in my case my current build does everything I need without any issues. So even if I had the money and can afford to spend it, I can't really justify doing so.
 
I pre-ordered off BLT, price has crept up over the last few days. Stock is supposed to be arriving as early as 10/23.
 
LTC8K6 said:
When you come into such a thread, and say the competition seems better, what do you expect?
The 8400 will run all it's cores at 3.8 under load, which doesn't seem too bad for the price.
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Not to mention telling the OP that he made a "bad purchase". In any case, I agree the 8400 seems like a very good purchase if one can find it at the manufacturer's suggested price.
 
Lots of inflated prices in the UK, but you can buy these things if you're willing to pay +50% prices.

Novatech have constantly had i5 8600K in stock (The only place I've seen those) at about the i7 8700K price (£327, ~$430), and right now have one 8700K if you want to pay £465 (~$600).

Overclockers have had pre-binned 8700Ks guaranteed to hit 5 and 5.1 GHz at up to £800 (over $1000), now reduced a bit since other 8700K stock has gradually appeared (and disappeared again). Whether you call that underhanded or smart use of limited stock is open for debate I guess.
 
whm1974 said:
Yes indeed it would be. So 6 Core CPUs are mainstream for mid-range systems now?
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The new standard CPU is 8 cores but Intel hasn't caught up yet. Coffee Lake 6 core was supposed to be Intel's big deal, but its just a mid ranger now since 8 cores are mainstream. I expect Intel to launch an 8 core mainstream CPU in 2018 and when that happens, 8 cores will be the new quad cores for both Intel and AMD buyers. 6 cores is honestly just a strange stop gap, mid range, half way there kind of thing in today's CPU market. 6 cores are still plenty though for most stuff, but 8/16 offers the kind of headroom that the original Core i7 offered people when it first came out. It was so overpowered it was crazy. It blew everyone away and people used the i7 920 for like, well some are still using it. The 8/16 CPU's will be like that again.

6 core CPU's were a big deal back when we were still diving shallow in quad core waters. This was when 4/8 CPU's had tons of overhead still, so a 6/12 CPU was really high end and overkill and totally awesome back then, and they are totally awesome now, but they don't represent the new paradigm. The 8/16 CPU represents the new paradigm. So we have descended the great waters of the quad core era, diving down to the bottom and find ourselves at the sea floor, only to see a ridge up ahead where the floor is no longer visible. This is the great under water 8 core ridge. As you swim along the quad core sea floor, you imagine then swimming out over and beyond the edge of this amazing new under water cliff. You then find the courage to look down into darkness and almost lose your breath upon realizing how deep and terrifying the waters in which you now find yourself truly are. The bottom of this trench will take years to reach and many upgrade cycles to discover.

So yeah, 6 cores represent the new mid range CPU, just like you mentioned. You said it short and to the point. I said it Boggly.
 
moonbogg said:
darkness and almost lose your breath upon realizing how deep and terrifying the waters in which you now find yourself truly are. The bottom of this trench will take years to reach and many upgrade cycles to discover.

So yeah, 6 cores represent the new mid range CPU, just like you mentioned. You said it short and to the point. I said it Boggly.
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Boggly going were no moon has gone before 😀
 
moonbogg said:
6 core CPU's were a big deal back when we were still diving shallow in quad core waters. This was when 4/8 CPU's had tons of overhead still, so a 6/12 CPU was really high end and overkill and totally awesome back then, and they are totally awesome now, but they don't represent the new paradigm. The 8/16 CPU represents the new paradigm.
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I don't know if I would call 8 core CPUs mainstream since the cheapest one is ~$300 or so while the i5-8400 is $180. My guess is in 2018 the i3 will be quad core, i5 is 6 cores, and with the i7 having 8 cores w/ Hyperthreading.

Another thing with 2018 i7, Intel may remove the iGPU to make room for the two extra cores and to allow higher clock speeds.
 
Crono said:
Pretty much. Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores, 12 threads) and the entry level i5 8400 and up.
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Depends on what you mean by "mainstream". Maybe for "mainstream" enthusiast market. However, for the wider consumer, business, education, etc market I think quad core and below will still be the vast majority of systems.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Depends on what you mean by "mainstream". Maybe for "mainstream" enthusiast market. However, for the wider consumer, business, education, etc market I think quad core and below will still be the vast majority of systems.
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Those aren't what I'd call mid-range systems, especially if HEDT and servers are considered the high end.
 
Crono said:
Those aren't what I'd call mid-range systems, especially if HEDT and servers are considered the high end.
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It is starting to look like quad cores will the next budget CPUs with the 2c/4t going to the extremely low end, with 6 cores becoming the mainstream, along with 8 cores processors ending up as the somewhat high end consumer product.
 
Crono said:
Those aren't what I'd call mid-range systems, especially if HEDT and servers are considered the high end.
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Well, again I did say it depends on how you define "mainstream". HEDT actually is a very small market. So excluding servers, I still would not consider the HEDT/enthusiast market "mainstream." In number of sales, HEDT and enthusiast (even though growing), is still what, maybe 10% of the market?
 
Of the vendors I trust to preorder with, only B&H has the option to preorder and they want a full $400 for it.
thxdd said:
I pre-ordered off BLT, price has crept up over the last few days. Stock is supposed to be arriving as early as 10/23.
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I hope you get yours shortly after 10/23. Please share when it ships. I googled BLT and found several experiences indicating that they tend to push those ETA's just before they reach it. Ex: on 10/22 they suddenly change ETA to 11/7. Hope they don't with coffee lake.
 
SangamonTaylor said:
Of the vendors I trust to preorder with, only B&H has the option to preorder and they want a full $400 for it.


I hope you get yours shortly after 10/23. Please share when it ships. I googled BLT and found several experiences indicating that they tend to push those ETA's just before they reach it. Ex: on 10/22 they suddenly change ETA to 11/7. Hope they don't with coffee lake.
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If your company offers a B&H discount (mine does), it drops considerably. Think I might put in a preorder there as well and see who ships first!
 
scannall said:
Perhaps a "Soggy Cardboard" launch then. ;-)
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It might be the new standard for cpu launches forward on for amd and Intel. I dont think the oem likes it. But now we have compettition so who knows.
Apple wouldn't dobsuch a thing and i dont quite get it from a business perspective. Its a bit brand trashy with bios mess and no availability for cpu.
But hey we get the new stuff early so thats good as enthusiast. More easy to plan loooong term.
 
Well longgg term isn't so hard just now - we've getting towards almost as far as we're going to usefully get on silicon so get something good and prepare to dig in until there's some big breakthrough 🙂
 
It's only been a little over a week since launch but when you prepare yourself mentally, check the bank account to make sure the money fits into plans, and finally make the decision that you are going to do it - *man* that money starts burning a hole in your pocket!

I find myself checking retailers like 10 times a day and this morning started looking into other options! (not seriously, just toying with it)
 
Any stock updates? B&H says backordered but my order time is 7:46 pm 1 minute after they went up (took a min to hit buttons).
 
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