Question High end video editing desktop. $4500 budget

[fredmurtz17]

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. Video editing. UHD -1, 4K eventually for biz website and Youtube.

2. What YOUR budget is. $4500.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from. USA

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. Intel but willing to look at AMD

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are. Need all new setup.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. Dont need overclocking.

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using? 4K.

9. WHEN do you plan to build it? Now

10. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software? Already purchased windows 10 pro and office.

 

[Flayed]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($749.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION EATX AM4 Motherboard ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 520 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($442.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3464.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-19 05:30 EST-0500

 

[_Rick_]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($749.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION EATX AM4 Motherboard ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 520 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($442.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Gold 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3464.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-19 05:30 EST-0500

I would probably look into ECC-RAM, on Ryzen, especially when going with a workstation-oriented mainboard. Arguably, the MoBo is probably a bit overkill - but getting onboard 10Gbit is nice.
I would also look into getting 2 M.2s, since the board supports it. A secondary slower device, like an Intel 660p would serve as a great extension to scratch space.
I'm not sure the 2070 really helps - but it depends a lot on the toolstack in use for the editing. If you can make extensive use of accelerated features, so that the 2070 actually gets a workout, then it's a no-brainer. Otherwise size the GPU down.

850W PSU is probably overkill, but the price is allright. Anything down to 600W should easily do here.

 

[Flayed]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($749.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION EATX AM4 Motherboard ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 520 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($442.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red Pro 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($344.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red Pro 10 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($344.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3505.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-19 09:21 EST-0500

 

[RLGL]

Why not use an M.2 for storage?

 

[Flayed]

Why not use an M.2 for storage?

Seagate Firecuda 520 is a NVMe 4 M2 drive

 

[fredmurtz17]

thanks for the help.

So on the M-2 SSD, that would be for the windows 10? Or partition the M-2 for OS and programs and run other drives for video storage?

I can push the budget up to $4k to get the better GPU and power supply.

Im using sony vegas platinum 10 for video editing, probably time to upgrade that too. Videos are for commercial website posting and YouTube.

 

[Flayed]

I was guessing how much storage you need. The OS and applications would go on the m2 along with your current project videos. I put the 2 large HDDs for raid 1 storage. No idea really how much data storage you need. You can replace them with more SSD if you think that would be better.

 

[fredmurtz17]

i forgot to mention i have 2 WD Gold 8TB Enterprise Class Hard Disk Drives - 7200 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5 Inch. They are new, never used.

I also have a Synology DiskStation DS1517+ 5-Bay NAS i can use for more storage. New, never used also.

Newegg is out of the G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory. _Rick_mentioned ECC memory, is there comparable ECC memory available?

Amazon showing 1 to 2 months for the Corsair CPU cooler. Any other cooler that will work or is that the one to get? I can wait if i have to.

 

[Arkaign]

Video editing is very thirsty for huge storage should you save a lot of projects, and especially 4k/8k/HRR/HDR stuff. Given this, perhaps get three additional matching 8tb drives and cram them into the Synology with the existing two. 5x8 in Raid 5 with SHR nets 32TB of storage, and have somewhere around 400-550MB/sec reads and writes over anything above 1Gbit LAN (2.5Gbe, 5Gbe, or 10Gbe). Duplex Gbit would get stuck around 225-240MB/sec.

If you can get 3-4TB of SSD in the main rig, it would be pretty ideal I think.

 

[Topweasel]

i forgot to mention i have 2 WD Gold 8TB Enterprise Class Hard Disk Drives - 7200 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5 Inch. They are new, never used.

I also have a Synology DiskStation DS1517+ 5-Bay NAS i can use for more storage. New, never used also.

Newegg is out of the G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory. _Rick_mentioned ECC memory, is there comparable ECC memory available?

Amazon showing 1 to 2 months for the Corsair CPU cooler. Any other cooler that will work or is that the one to get? I can wait if i have to.

I am not sure I would go hunting for ECC supporting boards on a consumer Ryzen setup. It's double the price but you may want to look at a ThreadRipper 3960x, it also means double the board cost but going ECC should be easier (can find a board validated or having ECC enabled without losing features). It would also mean you have growth for more memory later instead of capping it (128GB is the highest an AM4 board will ever go).

That said if this is a video creation machine I am not sure ECC is that important. It's not like you will have logs or DB entries that can be corrupted a bit off here or there might just mean one bad pixel in a single frame. ECC on Ryzen or TR just means it logs errors not fix them. Plus ECC means gimping performance because you won't find 3200 or 3600 sets of 32GB sticks with UDimms.

 

[fredmurtz17]

thanks for the help on the memory and storage.

Looking at the BenQ SW271 27 Inch 4K HDR Professional IPS Monitor with 10-Bit with 14-Bit 3D.

I checked if the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 will do 10 bit and i dont see it on their website.

Any suggestion on a monitor?

 

[Topweasel]

Content changed since last night. That Benq is well out of my wheelhouse (high end consumer, not prosumer market type person).

 

[bigi]

Good ideas here. If I went with any spinning HDDs, I'd RAID those for sure. Moreover, I'd RAID those with a dedicated card such as 3ware/lsi. Those are dirt cheap now.

 

[Arkaign]

Good ideas here. If I went with any spinning HDDs, I'd RAID those for sure. Moreover, I'd RAID those with a dedicated card such as 3ware/lsi. Those are dirt cheap now.

That's not a bad idea, but he already has an extremely nice 5 bay 1517+, which makes things a bit easier/cleaner than cramming 5 drives into his case. A bit more flexible as well, if he's remote with a client, or working with a different PC or device, he can easily run any cloud applet he installs on the Synology. He can also hotswap drive replacements and run 10Gbe for excellent speed 🙂

The card is more economical for someone that doesn't already have a relatively robust NAS.

 

[bigi]

That's not a bad idea, but he already has an extremely nice 5 bay 1517+, which makes things a bit easier/cleaner than cramming 5 drives into his case. A bit more flexible as well, if he's remote with a client, or working with a different PC or device, he can easily run any cloud applet he installs on the Synology. He can also hotswap drive replacements and run 10Gbe for excellent speed 🙂

The card is more economical for someone that doesn't already have a relatively robust NAS.

I agree with the flexibility aspect. I'd RAID my spinning HDD for I/O benefits first. In 'older' days this was important with Video Production.

If this were important, I don't know that NAS would suffice to match the I/O of direct RAID card.

 

[Topweasel]

I agree with the flexibility aspect. I'd RAID my spinning HDD for I/O benefits first. In 'older' days this was important with Video Production.

If this were important, I don't know that NAS would suffice to match the I/O of direct RAID card.

That really depends. If they were doing video work from the NAS, you maybe right. But if they are using a scratch drive or a large NVME storage for work and are just using the storage for orginals, end of day work, and finished products. Specially considering the size and speed of current SSD's, then the NAS would be more than enough.

 

[Torn Mind]

I would not install liquid cooling for work computers. It adds another point of failure when there was none to begin with. Overclocking is not something that should be done when the output must be non-defective and time is lost because the overclock screws things up. Thus, stock coolers should not be overloaded.

 

[VirtualLarry]

ECC on Ryzen or TR just means it logs errors not fix them.

ECC stands for Error CORRECTION Code. Generally, 72-bit wide DIMMs, can correct single-bit errors (and log them), and detect double-bit errors (and log them). Possibly other features, like "Chipkill", etc. as well. Not sure the full spectrum of RAS features on TR4.

 

[Topweasel]

ECC stands for Error CORRECTION Code. Generally, 72-bit wide DIMMs, can correct single-bit errors (and log them), and detect double-bit errors (and log them). Possibly other features, like "Chipkill", etc. as well. Not sure the full spectrum of RAS features on TR4.

I get and understand what ECC means. But ECC has never really been in my wheel house. I was under the impression that because Udimms as the name implies was unbuffered it didn't actually fix any errors. But I could see single bit errors being so quick that it could correct them.