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desy said:
Its annoying, I only had one vehicle where it was under the hood and a 30 second job
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I'm just waiting for one of the engineers to get the bright idea of placing it where you need an engine hoist to change it.

Or, worse yet, to put it behind a locked door requiring a subscription to access. I mean, "filtered air is a high end feature, not a right" just has the kind of stupid marketing pizazz that they love so much....
 
Steltek said:
I'm just waiting for one of the engineers to get the bright idea of placing it where you need an engine hoist to change it.

Or, worse yet, to put it behind a locked door requiring a subscription to access. I mean, "filtered air is a high end feature, not a right" just has the kind of stupid marketing pizazz that they love so much....
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You are not supposed to get into the "engine compartment" of the EQS sedan. They don't even have struts or pole to hold it up. The hood release is behind a screwed in panel as well. Maybe there is a way to secure it according to this guy. I have seen people add rod to it lol.

 
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Brovane said:
Are we going to see this becoming more common? Huge potential market as boomers get older.

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Many huge markets:

* Elderly
* Disabled
* Injured
* Impaired (drugs & alcohol)
* Teen drivers who don't have sold skills yet & need extra babysitting
* Commuters

The new Model Y Juniper is a REALLY great car & the longest-range version is ~350 miles. Adds 150 miles in 15 minutes at a Supercharger. Basic-model lease is $450/mo.
 
Ken g6 said:
Honda has canceled their EV plans, writing off billions. Top Gear is writing their epitaph.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/op...s-evs-most-staggering-car-news-ever-heres-why
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I read a similar take from TechCrunch.
(Even HMG, which is selling a lot of EVs, is pulling back in the U.S. with BEV sales slumping here.)
I'm starting to wonder if there weren't import controls at all, would China just own global automaking by 2035?


techcrunch.com

Honda is killing its EVs — and any chance of competing in the future | TechCrunch

Honda's decision to kill its three EVs for the U.S. market will reverberate far beyond North America.
techcrunch.com techcrunch.com
 
manly said:
I read a similar take from TechCrunch.
(Even HMG, which is selling a lot of EVs, is pulling back in the U.S. with BEV sales slumping here.)
I'm starting to wonder if there weren't import controls at all, would China just own global automaking by 2035?


techcrunch.com

Honda is killing its EVs — and any chance of competing in the future | TechCrunch

Honda's decision to kill its three EVs for the U.S. market will reverberate far beyond North America.
techcrunch.com techcrunch.com
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Would I buy a $12k USD Chinese EV with DeepSeek built-in? Ummm...YES!! lol
 
Kaido said:
Would I buy a $12k USD Chinese EV with DeepSeek built-in? Ummm...YES!! lol
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No you wouldn't, not enuf range. 😛

BYD exports the Dolphin globally, where it usually sells for around $25k.
They sell the similar Seagull domestically for around the $12k you mentioned; presumably competition is so brutal that a lot of the smaller transactions lose money. By all accounts, they have a huge glut of auto manufacturing so price warring is standard until firms fail bailouts.

Meanwhile, the average new auto sale in the U.S. > $50k and the average loan is nearly 6 years. 🤣
 
manly said:
No you wouldn't, not enuf range. 😛

BYD exports the Dolphin globally, where it usually sells for around $25k.
They sell the similar Seagull domestically for around the $12k you mentioned; presumably competition is so brutal that a lot of the smaller transactions lose money. By all accounts, they have a huge glut of auto manufacturing so price warring is standard until firms fail bailouts.

Meanwhile, the average new auto sale in the U.S. > $50k and the average loan is nearly 6 years. 🤣
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Easy solution, just buy 4 for less than the price of one American car & leave them in carpool lots at the end of each battery range, Ad Astra-style :tongueout:
 
It looks like Tesla is getting ready for mass production of the Tesla semi for real this time. 🙄 Tesla did build and is outfitting a factory in Sparks Nevada for the Semi production. They cut 1,000 lb off the 500 mile range Semi and the standard semi has a range of 325. Those ranges are supposed to be with a GVW of 82,000 lb. They are saying they have a lot of commercial interest from fleet operators that are very interested considering in CA you are looking at a 50% saving on per mile energy costs over the first year of ownership.

 
Brovane said:
It looks like Tesla is getting ready for mass production of the Tesla semi for real this time. 🙄 Tesla did build and is outfitting a factory in Sparks Nevada for the Semi production. They cut 1,000 lb off the 500 mile range Semi and the standard semi has a range of 325. Those ranges are supposed to be with a GVW of 82,000 lb. They are saying they have a lot of commercial interest from fleet operators that are very interested considering in CA you are looking at a 50% saving on per mile energy costs over the first year of ownership.

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Just like EV cars, EV trucks need infrastructure to support them. But much more powerful (like 1MW chargers).

The major OEMs in the industry already have electric vehicles on the road in mass production (well...low 1000s of units per year), so it will be interesting to see how the tesla truck compares to the established players who have had a couple years head start
 
Fenixgoon said:
Just like EV cars, EV trucks need infrastructure to support them. But much more powerful (like 1MW chargers).

The major OEMs in the industry already have electric vehicles on the road in mass production (well...low 1000s of units per year), so it will be interesting to see how the tesla truck compares to the established players who have had a couple years head start
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Apparently fairly good with a price point of $300k and a 500 mile range with a GVW of 82,000lb. The Volvo VNR Electric is $300-$400k with a range of ~250 miles. If Tesla can ramp mass production this year out of the new factory in Sparks Nevada and achieve 10,000+ units next year it could become very popular with shippers. Unlike previous vehicle releases from Tesla, it looks like Tesla has really focused on delivering a finished product with extended pilot testing with companies like Pepsi Co to sort out any issues or changes before full production starts.

https://www.wsj.com/business/logist...e?st=8nzvPG&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Jennie Abarca, co-founder and CEO of King Fio Trucking in Long Beach, Calif., once worked as a truck dispatcher and her husband is a truck driver, so she knows all too well the toll a diesel engine takes on people’s lungs and hearing. She eventually wants to swap out King Fio’s 27 diesel trucks to create an all-electric fleet.

King Fio already has 11 battery-electric trucks from Volvo and Nikola. But the company limits those trucks to shorter trips to and from local ports because they only have a range of about 225 miles.

The Semi, by contrast, can travel 500 miles on a single charge, according to Tesla. For King Fio that means two or three round-trips a day from Long Beach to warehouses in the nearby Inland Empire or a single round-trip to Las Vegas. She has 20 Semis on order.

“The Teslas change everything,” Abarca said. “It opens up a whole different type of delivery that I can make.”


 
Kaido said:
TIL that EVs represent roughly 10% of new car sales in the US :openmouth:
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That was last year. In January it was more like 5%. I still think autos will transition to EVs, but there's a lot of brain rot in the U.S. so it appears that will take much longer than previously imagined.

I don't think we can ban Chinese BEVs forever, nor should we. New cars will never be affordable again in the U.S. but made in China autos would dramatically increase competition.


tech.slashdot.org

US Car Buyers Envy What They Cannot Have: Affordable Chinese EVs - Slashdot

Many U.S. consumers are increasingly interested in lower-cost Chinese electric vehicles but steep tariffs and political resistance are keeping them out of the market. A recent survey from Cox Automotive found that 40% of respondents support allowing Chinese auto brands into the U.S. market...
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Kaido said:
TIL that EVs represent roughly 10% of new car sales in the US :openmouth:
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over 90% in Norway....

looks like Canucks might be getting a whole bunch of BYD dealerships

electrek.co

BYD plans 20 Canadian dealerships within a year as 6.1% tariff deal opens the floodgates

BYD is actively scouting 20 dealership locations across Canada, starting in Toronto, after Ottawa slashed Chinese EV tariffs from 100% to 6.1% in January.
electrek.co electrek.co

lol tesla

Tesla, long the dominant EV brand in Canada, saw its Canadian sales collapse by more than 60% in 2025, dropping to roughly 18,000 units. GM overtook Tesla as Canada’s top-selling EV brand in early 2025, while Hyundai and Kia gained significant ground.

/there's a LOT of new Chinese cars on the roads here in Dominican Republic
 
KMFJD said:
over 90% in Norway....

looks like Canucks might be getting a whole bunch of BYD dealerships

electrek.co

BYD plans 20 Canadian dealerships within a year as 6.1% tariff deal opens the floodgates

BYD is actively scouting 20 dealership locations across Canada, starting in Toronto, after Ottawa slashed Chinese EV tariffs from 100% to 6.1% in January.
electrek.co electrek.co

lol tesla

Tesla, long the dominant EV brand in Canada, saw its Canadian sales collapse by more than 60% in 2025, dropping to roughly 18,000 units. GM overtook Tesla as Canada’s top-selling EV brand in early 2025, while Hyundai and Kia gained significant ground.

/there's a LOT of new Chinese cars on the roads here in Dominican Republic
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Prediction: BYD will obliterate American EV sales in Canada. Genius move:

The tariff deal that made it possible

The dealership push is a direct consequence of the trade deal Canada struck with China in January, which cut the tariff on Chinese-built EVs from a prohibitive 100% down to 6.1% — but with strict limits.

The deal caps imports at 49,000 Chinese-made EVs in the first year, with a second application window from September 2026 to February 2027 allowing another 24,500 vehicles plus any unused permits from the first phase. The quota rises gradually to 70,000 units by 2030, and more than half of those vehicles are expected to carry import prices below $35,000.

In exchange, China reduced tariffs on Canadian agricultural exports including canola, lobster, crab, and peas. The deal also requires Chinese automakers to establish joint ventures for vehicles or batteries within Canada within three years — a provision designed to attract manufacturing investment alongside retail sales.

The 49,000-unit cap represents less than 3% of Canada’s annual new car market. That’s a tight leash, and it raises real questions about whether 20 dealership locations can sustain healthy volumes when the total available supply is capped at under 50,000 units split across multiple brands.
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Brovane said:
Before that happens BYD will need to build a factory in Canada.
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umm, I don't think importing cars require building a factory. They may need to build a local server farm though. The deal is one of tariff reduction with import limits.


We'll see if BYD survives this Iran fiasco. Middle East was like BYD's number 2 market last year and well, cars are not moving through the Straight of Holmuz.
 
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