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The anti-AI thread

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Kaido said:
Careful, that's a fun rabbit hole lol:

* AGT H12 baby home excavator
* $8k delivered
* 7-week delivery time from China


Or a bigger 1.8-ton class HT18 mini excavator:

* $13k delivered
* 1-week lead-time from a U.S. importer
* Towable on a 7k trailer

This is the sweet spot as smallest "real" excavator. You get 80% of a $25k Kubota for half the price!


What I'd love to do is get an HT18 & a Kei truck-style dump truck with a lift kit for farm use:

https://youtu.be/c2XMOKlx0EY?t=115

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I've heard fairly positive comments on the Chinese equipment. It isn't something I've looked into, but a concern of mine would be parts availability going forward. Equipment is a long term investment, and the possibility of losing the parts supply would make it less attractive. Ideal situation is they're Kubota clones, and Kubota OEM would fit. That's a good way to upgrade problematic parts also, but that compatibility is a big "if". I'd want to research thoroughly before making a purchase. A used big name might be the better long term deal.
 
Kaido said:
Get a used HP Z8 G4 barebones! That's my favorite refurb tower for mega-builds!

* If you're not in a rush, basic chassis go for $800 on eBay
* SUPER easy to work on!
* Up to 3 TERABYTES of RAM
* 7x PCIe slots = up to 4x double-slot GPU's
* Can run modern 5090's
* 1125, 1450, and 1700 watt power supplies
* Max = dual 28-core Xeon Platinum 8280 = 56 cores @ 112 threads total (2.7 GHz base & ~4.0 GHz turbo)
* These go for as low as $350 on eBay, if you're in no rush!
* Fastest = dual 16-core Xeon Gold 6246R = 32 cores @ 64 threads total (3.4 GHz base & ~4.1 GHz turbo)

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I literally had a Z8 G4 at checkout on eBay three times in August of last year along with a load of (then, very much cheaper) compatible DDR4 memory. Like an idiot, I talked myself out of buying it all three times and have regretted it every day since.

Being a fiscally responsible retiree just sucks beyond the telling sometimes.

We'll see what happens when I finally get my taxes filed this year --- may just have to start piecing one together over a few months.
 
lxskllr said:
Pretty sure this is old news, but counterfeit music on spotify...

www.honest-broker.com

Is Spotify Enabling Massive Impersonation of Famous Jazz Musicians?

How did trumpet legend Nat Adderley become a white guy playing with a three-handed bassist?
www.honest-broker.com www.honest-broker.com

I don't have first hand understanding of the scale cause I don't do streaming aside from "radio", and the "radio" I listen to is all top quality.
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It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.
 
nakedfrog said:
It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.
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Funny thing is I think normies wouldn't even care if Spotify used fake artist names for AI music.
 
Steltek said:
I literally had a Z8 G4 at checkout on eBay three times in August of last year along with a load of (then, very much cheaper) compatible DDR4 memory. Like an idiot, I talked myself out of buying it all three times and have regretted it every day since.

Being a fiscally responsible retiree just sucks beyond the telling sometimes.

We'll see what happens when I finally get my taxes filed this year --- may just have to start piecing one together over a few months.
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Yeah, they've been "discovered", so now bare-minimum bootable ones go $1,000 to $1,500. Still a good deal over $20,000 new!!
 
nakedfrog said:
It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.
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Oh it's crazy out there

www.musicbusinessworldwide.com

Spotify eyes AI ‘derivatives’ as new revenue stream for artists – says its tech to let fans make remixes and covers is ready - Music Business Worldwide

Spotify says it wants to enable listeners to interact with their favorite artists’ music through AI…
www.musicbusinessworldwide.com www.musicbusinessworldwide.com

www.musicbusinessworldwide.com

Universal and Suno are in a PR battle over ‘walled gardens’ in AI music - Music Business Worldwide

Suno exec Paul Sinclair pens memo taking aim at ‘walled garden’ approach championed by UMG in its recent AI licensing deals…
www.musicbusinessworldwide.com www.musicbusinessworldwide.com
 
Grandmother spent six months in jail after AI facial recognition misidentified her. She lost her home, car, and dog after police trusted AI facial recognition in lieu of actual basic investigation.


When the police finally figured it out, she was basically dumped on the street in Fargo, North Dakota on Christmas Eve with no money, no coat, no way to get home, and with not even an apology.

As if many police departments need a further reason to be even more incompetent at their jobs. Hope she makes out like a bandit in the lawsuit (or lawsuits) that surely will come (especially since two separate police departments were involved).
 
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So she was in jail for months in TN, was told she had to go to ND to fight the charges, they dump her in North Dakota on Christmas Fucking Eve in the summer clothes she was arrested in, the local DA gave her hotel money so, you know, she wouldn't fucking die of exposure. Couldn't pay her bills from jail so she lost her home, car, and dog.
For more than a week, WDAY News tried to arrange an on-camera interview with Fargo Police Chief David Zibolski to discuss the case. Through a spokesperson, the chief declined an on-camera interview. WDAY News brought the issue up on Wednesday, March 11, at Zibolski's retirement press conference.

"Why did nobody from Fargo Police ever speak with Angela Lipps for the five months she was in jail?" Zibolski was asked.

"Thank you, Matt (Henson), for that question, but we are not here to talk about that today," Zibolski replied.
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Cowardly police chief won't say boo about the matter. Maybe they oughta seize his home, sell it, give her the proceeds, and ditch his ass on the street in a strange town during winter with no resources.

Because AI said this woman:
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Was this woman:
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nakedfrog said:
So she was in jail for months in TN, was told she had to go to ND to fight the charges, they dump her in North Dakota on Christmas Fucking Eve in the summer clothes she was arrested in, the local DA gave her hotel money so, you know, she wouldn't fucking die of exposure. Couldn't pay her bills from jail so she lost her home, car, and dog.

Cowardly police chief won't say boo about the matter. Maybe they oughta seize his home, sell it, give her the proceeds, and ditch his ass on the street in a strange town during winter with no resources.

Because AI said this woman:
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It wasn't the local DA, but rather some local defense attorneys in Fargo that got together and gave her enough money to stay in a hotel room for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and to buy food while she tried to figure something out. A local non-profit finally was able to help her get back to Tennessee.

Everything else tracks, though.

We should all be glad that we don't resemble a criminal suspect. Especially in either Tennessee (whose state police has a MAJOR problem with arresting tons of innocent sober people for DUI who were later shown via medical testing not to be either drunk or under influence of drugs) or North Dakota. The less said about the US Marshal Service in this instance, the better.

Ridiculous doesn't even begin to describe this situation, though.

And, what will be even less funny will be that police/federal personnel involved will now fall back on qualified immunity. The taxpayers will have to foot a huge settlement or two from the agencies that employ them (Fargo ND police and the US Marshal Service, or whoever was "investigating" the case on the federal side that lead to her) and the members of law enforcement who fracked up so badly will just go on about their merry ways with no liability to continue to ruin other people's lives.
 
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Steltek said:
It wasn't the local DA, but rather some local defense attorneys in Fargo that got together and gave her enough money to stay in a hotel room for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and to buy food while she tried to figure something out. A local non-profit finally was able to help her get back to Tennessee.
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Yeah cops (including DAs) definitely don't care about dumping a broke grandma on the street on Christmas Eve in North Dakota. They figure she must be guilty of something so it doesn't matter.

A TV reporter from Grand Forks asked the police chief about this at his retirement ceremony (unsure if related). So at least questions are being asked.
 
lxskllr said:
lol...

futurism.com

BuzzFeed Nearing Bankruptcy After Disastrous Turn Toward AI

Three years after its pivot to AI, the writing is on the wall for BuzzFeed. The company said there's "substantial doubt" it can keep going.
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I think they'd already previously restructured one (or even more) times in the less than 5 years they have existed as a public company, so this simply serves mostly as a warning that AI isn't going to save poorly run companies that otherwise can't survive from themselves.

No matter what all the AI tech-Jesusbros seem to continually prophesize in the media.
 

Reasoning: The move is largely driven by a need to balance high expenses for AI infrastructure and talent with projected productivity gains from AI, as reported by Reuters and MarketWatch.
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Steltek said:
Well, I'm sure this is going to turn out just swell.

Copilot for Health: Your AI Assistant | Microsoft Copilot

Copilot for health is your AI assistant that helps you find doctors, care, and credible medical answers. Try it now!
www.microsoft.com www.microsoft.com

Microslop Copilot helping to improve your health. Who woulda thunk it?

I do sincerely hope they are better at it than they are at improving Windows 11......
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200% of code of Copilot for Health is done by AI!
 
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Yes, that is some especially rank bullshit. The "surge" price will just be the "regular" price, and prices outside that time will be "marked down".
 
I noticed Canadian Tire and a few other stores have been going to digital prices now, chances are dynamic pricing is already a thing. Don't really need AI for that. Could have an algorithm that bumps the prices up based on inventory, time of day, time of year, etc. Or even just a central spreadsheet that's updated manually by corporate. Guessing the price tags are programmed with a sku then they just connect to a central server to get the price.

Of course AI will make it even more dynamic, will be able to figure out customer trends etc. Maybe even figure out exactly who is in the store at any time based on face recognition cameras. It will be able to figure out who is more likely to spend more and what not over time.
 
Steltek said:
Walmart secures two AI pricing patents, raising fears of future implementation of dynamic pricing model:


Walmart says the tools are for markdowns and forecasting, not surge pricing. Well, I think that is the Walmart version of "pull the other finger." If it can forecast and mark prices down, it can easily monitor and mark them up.
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Yuuuuup:

www.gosugamers.net

Sony trials dynamic pricing on PlayStation Store, sparking backlash from users | GosuGamers

Users hit out at Sony after discovering the PlayStation Store offered inconsistent discounts through dynamic pricing.
www.gosugamers.net www.gosugamers.net

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7615046822691671326
 
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