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Iranian Revolution in 2022/2026?

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'Jake Sullivan, one of the most senior former U.S. officials, says that the U.S. is in a war aimed solely at destroying Iran, one of humanity's oldest civilizations, against the U.S.'s own interests, at the behest of Israel, a 76-year-old state.

Listen to the video: he says that Israel's objective in the war "is just break Iran -cause chaos," basically destroy the country, "because as far as they’re concerned, a broken Iran is less of a threat to Israel."Which he says is not in the US's interests "because a broken Iran means a broken global economy, as they continue to threaten the Straits of Hormuz. It means a potential refugee flow, like we saw after the war in Syria into Europe."

He also says the Trump administration cannot answer what their own objective is in the war "because they don't know why they're there in the first place," implying that they're there mainly at the behest of Israel (otherwise they'd be able to articulate at least one reason).

The curse of the "former official" strikes again... This is the same Jake Sullivan who, as National Security Advisor, oversaw the unconditional U.S. support for Israel's destruction of Gaza. Apparently breaking a people at the behest of Israel is only bad when a different administration does it...'

i said that the democrats would be against this only when they where out of power and golly gee whiz here we are....
 
Haha he really is just incredibly dim.

Nobody has told him that from a strategic perspective we've presently lost. A harder line government is in control in Iran who will insist on harsh settlement terms and they have operational control of the Strait and thus the global economy.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ly-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912

Trump gets a daily video montage briefing about the Iran war​


WASHINGTON — Each day since the start of the war in Iran, U.S. military officials compile a video update for President Donald Trump that shows video of the biggest, most successful strikes on Iranian targets over the previous 48 hours, three current U.S. officials and a former U.S. official said.
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They said the videos are also driving Trump’s increasing frustration with news coverage of the war. Trump has pointed to the success depicted in the daily videos to privately question why his administration can’t better influence the public narrative, asking aides why the news media doesn’t emphasize what he’s seeing, one of the current U.S. officials and the former U.S. official said.
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Overall, the official said, the information Trump gets about the war tends to emphasize U.S. successes, with comparatively little detail about Iranian actions.

One example came this month when five U.S. Air Force refueling planes were hit in an Iranian strike at Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia, according to one of the current U.S. officials. Trump wasn’t briefed about the strikes, and he learned what had happened from media reports, the official said. When Trump inquired, he was told the planes weren’t badly damaged, the official said.

The official said Trump reacted angrily behind the scenes to the news coverage. Publicly he posted on Truth Social calling coverage of the strike misleading and accusing media organizations of wanting the U.S. “to lose the War.”

Leavitt defended Trump’s criticism of the media.
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K1052 said:
Haha he really is just incredibly dim.

Nobody has told him that from a strategic perspective we've presently lost. A harder line government is in control in Iran who will insist on harsh settlement terms and they have operational control of the Strait and thus the global economy.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ly-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912

Trump gets a daily video montage briefing about the Iran war​

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This represents his supporters and the type of people who voted for him.

This has got to be the most pathetic administration in history.
In what world does a President...screw it ANY leader recieve briefings like this?

These are briefs. They are not to inform.
They are entertainment.

They are playing teletubby videos for the president of the United States. It tik tok/YouTube shorts for a dementia riddle old man with the focus of a toddler.
 
Just getting the Iranians to the table is going to require significant concessions and the WH has not internalized that because we are "winning" the war as far as they've told Trump. I assume that in response he will green light the kind of ground operation that eventually ends in something like Hostomel.

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KMFJD said:

'Jake Sullivan, one of the most senior former U.S. officials, says that the U.S. is in a war aimed solely at destroying Iran, one of humanity's oldest civilizations, against the U.S.'s own interests, at the behest of Israel, a 76-year-old state.

Listen to the video: he says that Israel's objective in the war "is just break Iran -cause chaos," basically destroy the country, "because as far as they’re concerned, a broken Iran is less of a threat to Israel."Which he says is not in the US's interests "because a broken Iran means a broken global economy, as they continue to threaten the Straits of Hormuz. It means a potential refugee flow, like we saw after the war in Syria into Europe."

He also says the Trump administration cannot answer what their own objective is in the war "because they don't know why they're there in the first place," implying that they're there mainly at the behest of Israel (otherwise they'd be able to articulate at least one reason).

The curse of the "former official" strikes again... This is the same Jake Sullivan who, as National Security Advisor, oversaw the unconditional U.S. support for Israel's destruction of Gaza. Apparently breaking a people at the behest of Israel is only bad when a different administration does it...'

i said that the democrats would be against this only when they where out of power and golly gee whiz here we are....
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I think there is a slight but significant difference in that gaza started out somewhat legit and morphed into a slaughter - bit of a slippery slope and the biden administration was slow to respond to the change though it is unclear if they would have ever responded. There are a lot of issues with what happened on the 26 include Israel extremely slow response to border patrol call for help so i'm not convince it wasn't a convenient govt action on Israel part but none the less the initial response had a sense of legitmacy.

Iran on the other hand was clearly a preemptive attack with little pre conceived objective and totally ignoring the likely consequences.
 
K1052 said:
Haha he really is just incredibly dim.

Nobody has told him that from a strategic perspective we've presently lost. A harder line government is in control in Iran who will insist on harsh settlement terms and they have operational control of the Strait and thus the global economy.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ly-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912

Trump gets a daily video montage briefing about the Iran war​

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I'm having a recollection of some quote from the past, maybe in reference to WW2, about the aggressors beginning to understand they were losing when all their heroic victories were happening closer and closer to their capitol.
 
K1052 said:
Haha he really is just incredibly dim.

Nobody has told him that from a strategic perspective we've presently lost. A harder line government is in control in Iran who will insist on harsh settlement terms and they have operational control of the Strait and thus the global economy.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ly-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912

Trump gets a daily video montage briefing about the Iran war​

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Well Trump can't understnad because he hired the worse of the worse to only give him good news not objective news. Sort of like Putin being told Ukraine would welcome Russian invaders with open arms.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
I'm having a recollection of some quote from the past, maybe in reference to WW2, about the aggressors beginning to understand they were losing when all their heroic victories were happening closer and closer to their capitol.
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When your generals gather to tell you how well the war is going and the epic content you are making:

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K1052 said:
Just getting the Iranians to the table is going to require significant concessions and the WH has not internalized that because we are "winning" the war as far as they've told Trump. I assume that in response he will green light the kind of ground operation that eventually ends in something like Hostomel.

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Another day, another billion dollars down the drain. Let's do it all again tomorrow!

It's also been reported that Iran will not negotiate and peace/ceasefire agreement with Kushner and Witkoff and "prefer" JD Vance.

I can see that Kushner and Witkoff wore out their welcome by setting them up for war while still being positive about a peace deal. ALso, both of them being Jewish and close to Netanyahu is a slap in the face to the Iranians and Trump very well knows this. Not to mention them being corrupt real estate developers and they are NOT government officials. High level negotiations are not conducted by Deputies and certainly not 3rd rate nation surrogates like Kushner and Witkoff. They know Kushner is a snake.

The Iranians are also self-aware enough to see the gap. They could be trying to elevate JD’s profile to cause more turmoil within the admin and so to cause friction between him and Trump. They know Trump doesn’t like/want to be shown up. I'm not sure, but he is probably the least controlled by AIPAC in Trumps Cabinet.

Trump wants to reinstate the deal that Obama and the European Union negotiated with Iran...but wants his own signature on in it .... Then, he'll claim it's the greatest deal ever.

Iran isn't going to play Trump's game.
 
KMFJD said:

'Jake Sullivan, one of the most senior former U.S. officials, says that the U.S. is in a war aimed solely at destroying Iran, one of humanity's oldest civilizations, against the U.S.'s own interests, at the behest of Israel, a 76-year-old state.

Listen to the video: he says that Israel's objective in the war "is just break Iran -cause chaos," basically destroy the country, "because as far as they’re concerned, a broken Iran is less of a threat to Israel."Which he says is not in the US's interests "because a broken Iran means a broken global economy, as they continue to threaten the Straits of Hormuz. It means a potential refugee flow, like we saw after the war in Syria into Europe."

He also says the Trump administration cannot answer what their own objective is in the war "because they don't know why they're there in the first place," implying that they're there mainly at the behest of Israel (otherwise they'd be able to articulate at least one reason).

The curse of the "former official" strikes again... This is the same Jake Sullivan who, as National Security Advisor, oversaw the unconditional U.S. support for Israel's destruction of Gaza. Apparently breaking a people at the behest of Israel is only bad when a different administration does it...'

i said that the democrats would be against this only when they where out of power and golly gee whiz here we are....
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Not only has a democratic establishment completely been complicit with all of Israel's evil overseas, the Democratic establishment has gleefully helped suppress progressives in their own party in cahoots with AIPAC, or at the least happy they have and are doing it. It's become quite evident how the Democrat establishment hates progressives, and how much the Israelis do as well, and contribute to their losses in primaries.
 
Don't be surprised if Iran launches a preemptive attack against the USA bases when the marines and troops are meeting. This is gonna end badly.
 
DZero said:
Don't be surprised if Iran launches a preemptive attack against the USA bases when the marines and troops are meeting. This is gonna end badly.
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Probably but mostly they will wait for the US to come to them within range of basically every weapon system Iran has.
 
K1052 said:
Probably but mostly they will wait for the US to come to them within range of basically every weapon system Iran has.
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Nah, that’s the mistake Iraq made. You don’t sit on your ass while the enemy prepares. U.S. doctrine would be to wipe out the defenses before troop advance.
 
you2 said:
That makes around 5000 total.... we know what will happen next.
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I don't know what will happen but I'm guessing that Trumps puppet masters plan is a couple of hundred dead US troops, a massive escalation in military action, and Trump getting a "war surge" in support in the polls.

So basically a human sacrifice to increase his popularity!
 
WelshBloke said:
I don't know what will happen but I'm guessing that Trumps puppet masters plan is a couple of hundred dead US troops, a massive escalation in military action, and Trump getting a "war surge" in support in the polls.

So basically a human sacrifice to increase his popularity!
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He may be saving troop involvement closer to the midterms so he can "try" to use it to cancel them or some kind of martial law inhibiting the vote. Although that is still aways away, but anything's possible from this criminal
 
IronWing said:
Nah, that’s the mistake Iraq made. You don’t sit on your ass while the enemy prepares. U.S. doctrine would be to wipe out the defenses before troop advance.
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Not doable in the age of drone tech. Or, in the age of a couple morons directing military actions. That and depleted AA for dealing with drones and missiles. Iran took a lesson from NK and dispersed it's weapon systems and stockpiles in caves and underground bunkers. We won't get enough of them in a few weeks of bombing.

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We are not ready for a ground war with Iran. We are not ready for a 'limited' occupation of specific territories. Our dimwitted president (see post 2730) is slow walking us into another Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan. SMH.
 
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