Discussion RDNA 5 / UDNA (CDNA Next) speculation

[Win2012R2]

AT2 is for Nextbox gamer cattle, AT0 is for rich people who actually intend to make money off them.
Xbox Cloud is lead customer.

And how much Xbox is paying for this - more than $2k per unit?

 

[poke01]

a better question to ask is, is Xbox cloud even popular? I haven’t seen a single person ever use it.

 

[poke01]

Also cloud gaming is just pure puke, the latency is horrible and you NEED to have a fibre connection as well as Ethernet for a somewhat decent experience. I’ve tried GeForce Now and it’s not worth it. It’s just a glorified hardware rental service.

 

[adroc_thurston]

a better question to ask is, is Xbox cloud even popular? I haven’t seen a single person ever use it.

Decently so.

And how much Xbox is paying for this - more than $2k per unit?

Yeah.

 

[branch_suggestion]

And how much Xbox is paying for this - more than $2k per unit?

Quite a lot more, remember CGVDI AT0 is 128GB GDDR7.

Also cloud gaming is just pure puke, the latency is horrible and you NEED to have a fibre connection as well as Ethernet for a somewhat decent experience. I’ve tried GeForce Now and it’s not worth it. It’s just a glorified hardware rental service.

Input lag will always hold it back from replacing physical hardware for all use cases, but it does have its uses.
I'm mainly interested in the server setup.

 

[Win2012R2]

Quite a lot more, remember CGVDI AT0 is 128GB GDDR7.

Yeah, that's gonna cost a fortune - the memory part will bite if current prices stay, and looks like they will for some time.

Input lag will always hold it back from replacing physical hardware for all use cases, but it does have its uses.
I'm mainly interested in the server setup.

IMHO could gaming can only work if they start putting servers very much nearby where people are so that latency is always <10 ms, ideally in 4-5 ms range. But there are no big economies of scale for such distributed server farms, and use case is marginal financially.

Quite a lot more, remember CGVDI AT0 is 128GB GDDR7.

With so much memory this could make nice local AI running thingy, even if memory is 64 GB - still might be good.

 

[branch_suggestion]

IMHO could gaming can only work if they start putting servers very much nearby where people are so that latency is always <10 ms, ideally in 4-5 ms range. But there are no big economies of scale for such distributed server farms, and use case is marginal financially.

Yeah that ain't happening, best case is <50ms for like 90% of major countries population in the next 15 years.

With so much memory this could make nice local AI running thingy, even if memory is 64 GB - still might be good.

Yeah you get Pro and ML specific models too, it should be good at basically everything.
Such is the freedom of big dies.

 

[marees]

a better question to ask is, is Xbox cloud even popular? I haven’t seen a single person ever use it.

hey, I started a thread on this. (I got xcloud installed on my samsung TV. waiting for the free 5hrs /month offer

Android & iPhone won't support this — for obvious reasons
Nadella having even more regret for ditching windows phone

But Amazon firestick, Tizen (Samsung) & WebOS (LG) to the rescue

you now do not need that expensive console (or PC & GPU) to game

Technically GeForce now app is already available on my Samsung TV — but unfortunately that service not available in my region, but xbox cloud gaming is available


Now imagine that you can play a game like Microsoft flight simulator or forza Horizon without console / PC/ add on ssd / download & installation etc.

You just need compatible controller or thrust pad/stick combo or wheel etc.

Microsoft reportedly mulls ad-infested free Xbox Cloud Gaming plan — Game Pass Ultimate subscriber allegedly catches ad during game loading

Public tests coming very soon.

www.tomshardware.com

You will have to buy your own games (or gamepass subscription tho)

Cloud gaming sessions (with built in wait time) are free for 5 hrs a month
But the games are not free

& if you need more than 5 hrs / month (but don't want to buy gamepass subscription) ?
Hopefully there will be a pay-as-you-play option for that 🤔