AMD Ryzen Gen 2 Set For Q2 2018

[Dayman1225]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7ipgoh/amd_ryzen_2_set_for_march_2018_launch_on_12nm/

 

[ao_ika_red]

Ryzen 3 mobile apu is pretty interesting. It should be popular in developing country.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Based on that presentation, it could just as easily be Feb. 2018. But March would be okay too.

 

[turtile]

The more interesting part is the mobile gaming APU. It must have a significantly faster GPU than the current one.

 

[Yotsugi]

The more interesting part is the mobile gaming APU. It must have a significantly faster GPU than the current one.

Yes.
What's it?
Current RR die is merely 704ALUs tops (11 nCUs).
That's not enough to be a "gaming" SKU.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yes.
What's it?
Current RR die is merely 704ALUs tops (11 nCUs).
That's not enough to be a "gaming" SKU.

But AMD claims Kaveri is a "gaming APU", do they not, for e-sports types of games.

 

[Yotsugi]

But AMD claims Kaveri is a "gaming APU", do they not, for e-sports types of games.

That's probably "H" mobile SKUs (35-45W).

 

[turtile]

Yes.
What's it?
Current RR die is merely 704ALUs tops (11 nCUs).
That's not enough to be a "gaming" SKU.

Maybe it's higher clocked 12 unit APUs - assuming they would need to use HBM2 for higher performance.

 

[Yotsugi]

Maybe it's higher clocked 12 unit APUs - assuming they would need to use HBM2 for higher performance.

AGAIN:

RR

DIE

HAS

NO

HBM

PHY

Got it?

 

[richaron]

AGAIN:

RR

DIE

HAS

NO

HBM

PHY

Got it?

^ Suggests they don't understand the concept of a MCM.

 

[Yotsugi]

^ Suggests they don't understand the concept of a MCM.

What MCM?
Are you suggesting AMD to make a MCM of RR die (that has no SerDes links required for that) and HBM2 PHY?

 

[ao_ika_red]

I believe this "mobile gaming apu" moniker is just a faster dual channel memory notebook.

 

[Yotsugi]

I believe this "mobile gaming apu" moniker is just a faster dual channel memory notebook.

Yeah, that's probably a 45W H part.

 

[richaron]

What MCM?
Are you suggesting AMD to make a MCM of RR die (that has no SerDes links required for that) and HBM2 PHY?

I'm suggesting your above argument was a similar to saying ThreadRipper or Epyc can't exist. I'm not making any speculations on the future,

 

[Yotsugi]

I'm suggesting your above argument was a similar to saying ThreadRipper or Epyc can't exist. I'm not making any speculations on the future,

Wait, you want AMD to reinvent the wheel create a Northbridge!
You know, these old chips with extrenal memory controllers CPUs used to connect to using FSBs (or modern point-to-point protocols like HT/QPI).

 

[itsmydamnation]

any one have a raven ridge die shot yet?

edit: i mean 3rd party

 

[moinmoin]

I'm suggesting your above argument was a similar to saying ThreadRipper or Epyc can't exist. I'm not making any speculations on the future,

But the Zeppelin die made both of those possible. The Raven Ridge die doesn't make MCM nor HBM possible.

 

[Yotsugi]

any one have a raven ridge die shot yet?

You can find it in AT's article about the Raven Ridge (and it's actually official from AMD, take note, Intel!).

 

[Dayman1225]

(and it's actually official from AMD, take note, Intel!).

What you mean, Intel post's their die shots

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-unveils-8th-gen-intel-core-processor-family-desktop/

Most recent here (CFL)

 

[Yotsugi]

What you mean, Intel post's their die shots

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-unveils-8th-gen-intel-core-processor-family-desktop/

Most recent here (CFL)

They were very cagey about SKL-SP dieshots, actually.
You know, the ones that matter (gotta estimate the die size on these HUEG XCC dies).

 

[Dayman1225]

They were very cagey about SKL-SP dieshots, actually.
You know, the ones that matter (gotta estimate the die size on these HUEG XCC dies).

Hmm, looking at this it looks like they didn't release LCC, but did for HCC and XCC, though I may be wrong.

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/skylake_(server)

 

[majord]

no desktop APU on that slide? :/

 

[DrMrLordX]

Desktop APU may be dead since the OEMs these days love using mobile parts in all-in-one desktop units.

 

[amd6502]

Yes.
What's it?
Current RR die is merely 704ALUs tops (11 nCUs).
That's not enough to be a "gaming" SKU.

But AMD claims Kaveri is a "gaming APU", do they not, for e-sports types of games.

Kaveri and BR desktop can handle entry gaming just fine; the latter supposedly even 1080p.

RR at 65W-95W should be a step above. If/when they get dual graphics working I imagine these will be very capable gaming systems. As far as mobile gaming, it's probably better to go discrete unless they can cool the CPU at 65W TDP.

 

[whm1974]

Desktop APU may be dead since the OEMs these days love using mobile parts in all-in-one desktop units.

Not everyone is buying AIOs, I wouldn't.