Core i3 6300 mini Review - AtenRa

[crashtech]

Careful component selections are a must in order to achieve expected results.

 

[AtenRa]

1866MHz DDR-3 is the highest the Intel H110 + Skylake supports.

H110 with DDR-4 only supports 2133MHz with higher latency than DDR-3 1866MHz at 9-9-10.

 

[sm625]

What a beast!

Can you run google Octane? I am curious if this thing beats my G3258 score of 36000.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Plenty of people game on whatever computer they bought retail whether it has a dedicated GPU or not. It's the performance of iGPs that determines what games a lot of people end up playing. One of the reasons behind the success of League of Legends and DotA 2.

Any documentation for that?

I would totally agree in laptops, but in desktops, I am not so sure. Pretty easy to just stick an 80.00, 6 pin free dgpu in pretty much any desktop, even OEM ones.

 

[MrTeal]

Any documentation for that?

I would totally agree in laptops, but in desktops, I am not so sure. Pretty easy to just stick an 80.00, 6 pin free dgpu in pretty much any desktop, even OEM ones.

A couple months ago my mother-in-law wanted a WiFi card for her desktop computer for her birthday, specifically one with an antenna. At my wife's insistence, I got a PCIe add in card from Newegg and had it sent to her. Weeks later I hear grumblings and my wife wanted me to order her a new, USB Wifi dongle. Apparently her mom's computer doesn't have PCIe, only PCI so she can't use it, and was going to return it. I refused and after going back and forth telling her that if it was made in the last 10 years it will, and her insisting that is doesn't, I sent her a picture of a motherboard with a PCIe slot highlighted, told her to take the side off, and stick the card in there. The wife got an email a couple hours later saying it was working, thanks.

It is pretty easy to stick a GPU into a computer, but that doesn't mean it's something the majority of people are going to feel comfortable doing so. That goes doubly so when people have boxes that still have those "Warranty void if removed" stickers on them before you can even take the side off.

 

[crashtech]

1866MHz DDR-3 is the highest the Intel H110 + Skylake supports.

H110 with DDR-4 only supports 2133MHz with higher latency than DDR-3 1866MHz at 9-9-10.

They are very close, but DDR4 seems to have a slight advantage:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/7

 

[VirtualLarry]

I wouldn't dare game on my i3's GT2 iGPU, I get it that AtenRa is trying to sell the APU's advantage in this thread.

I know someone that splashed out big bucks for an i5 HP rig at BestBuy a while ago, and they play on the IGP. I tried to sell him a cheap GPU (or at least interest him in a GPU), but he didn't seem to care.

Some people are just clueless, I guess.

Plenty of people game on whatever computer they bought retail whether it has a dedicated GPU or not.

This. Most people are not enthusiasts, and they have "their computer guy" open the PC, if it ever needs to be opened.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

Any documentation for that?

I would totally agree in laptops, but in desktops, I am not so sure. Pretty easy to just stick an 80.00, 6 pin free dgpu in pretty much any desktop, even OEM ones.

Well, according to Steam statistics -- Around 19% of their users are playing games with Intel graphics. Just saying -- IGP is good enough for probably around 25% of their users (I'd imagine about 5% of AMD's share are APU's / Laptops -- although, that is just a guess).

 

[frozentundra123456]

A couple months ago my mother-in-law wanted a WiFi card for her desktop computer for her birthday, specifically one with an antenna. At my wife's insistence, I got a PCIe add in card from Newegg and had it sent to her. Weeks later I hear grumblings and my wife wanted me to order her a new, USB Wifi dongle. Apparently her mom's computer doesn't have PCIe, only PCI so she can't use it, and was going to return it. I refused and after going back and forth telling her that if it was made in the last 10 years it will, and her insisting that is doesn't, I sent her a picture of a motherboard with a PCIe slot highlighted, told her to take the side off, and stick the card in there. The wife got an email a couple hours later saying it was working, thanks.

It is pretty easy to stick a GPU into a computer, but that doesn't mean it's something the majority of people are going to feel comfortable doing so. That goes doubly so when people have boxes that still have those "Warranty void if removed" stickers on them before you can even take the side off.

I dont think mothers-in-law are the typical PC gaming demographic either. But point is the poster I originally was replying to had no documentation of his claim.

 

[escrow4]

I've been using an i3 4170 on a skanky H81 mobo for close to 5 months now and there is no need to go higher for a basic box. I wouldn't go lower either, an i3 is enough for a basic all rounder that doesn't compromise, not counting gaming. If you game step it up to a dGPU and i5+.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I know someone that splashed out big bucks for an i5 HP rig at BestBuy a while ago, and they play on the IGP. I tried to sell him a cheap GPU (or at least interest him in a GPU), but he didn't seem to care.

Some people are just clueless, I guess.

ROFL! 😀

If he's happy, though, why knock it?

 

[crashtech]

ROFL! 😀

If he's happy, though, why knock it?

Likely because most techies are averse to the saying, "ignorance is bliss."

 

[Dufus]

1866MHz DDR-3 is the highest the Intel H110 + Skylake supports.

H110 with DDR-4 only supports 2133MHz with higher latency than DDR-3 1866MHz at 9-9-10.

FWIW already posted example of i3-6320 OC'd to 4.6GHz and DDR4 RAM to 2560MTS on H170 in CPU-z thread.

 

[Blue_Max]

Since the OP has already made his purchase, may I at least suggest he also keep his eyes open for a used Radeon R7 250 card? (Not 250X!)

It'll combine with the APU and give you a nice boost, especially if you pick it up used for very cheap... $20-40 or so.

 

[Vesku]

Any documentation for that?

I would totally agree in laptops, but in desktops, I am not so sure. Pretty easy to just stick an 80.00, 6 pin free dgpu in pretty much any desktop, even OEM ones.

It's not comprehensive but Steam's hardware survey shows something close to 50% integrated: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Even with some potential confusionon Steam's part, where it doesn't properly recognize a dGPU and marks integrated as the primary GPU, integrated makes a strong showing on that enthusiast platform.

Which doesn't even cover League of Legends and all the people playing lightweight browser based games. I imagine many of the casual gamers are moving over to phone and tablet as their primary gaming device but that just means integrated graphics performance is more important than ever for non-AAA game developers.

 

[AtenRa]

FWIW already posted example of i3-6320 OC'd to 4.6GHz and DDR4 RAM to 2560MTS on H170 in CPU-z thread.

As you can see i was only talking about H110 and 1866MHz was the highest the system was able to work with DDR-3.

 

[TeknoBug]

I know someone that splashed out big bucks for an i5 HP rig at BestBuy a while ago, and they play on the IGP. I tried to sell him a cheap GPU (or at least interest him in a GPU), but he didn't seem to care.

Some people are just clueless, I guess.



This. Most people are not enthusiasts, and they have "their computer guy" open the PC, if it ever needs to be opened.

Yeah I know a few people like this, but games like DOTA 2 and Starcraft are playable on systems with iGPU, game devs that are interested in drawing the masses in popularity would make their game usable on a broad range of PC hardware. Blizzard did that with WoW when it was released as that game was still playable on a Pentium III or AMD Slot-A at the time.

Since the OP has already made his purchase, may I at least suggest he also keep his eyes open for a used Radeon R7 250 card? (Not 250X!)

It'll combine with the APU and give you a nice boost, especially if you pick it up used for very cheap... $20-40 or so.

I did this with an A8 7600, it wasn't too bad.