This is true ironically they have much more problem slipping market share,empty fabs loosing money no AI GPU for DC,uncompetitive CPU designs and product in Desktop.
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Alder lake was a very good gen it is their best gen in the last decade lol.
I don't think that's the case it could be a bad thermal job just checked it's based on ADL even though it's called Raptor Lake 🤣.
From the same video this is is not good condition also undervolting won't fix this mess. OEMs put random skyrocketing Power Limits on laptop and than it throttles and than people have issue even my 185H has 115W PL2 and 90W PL1 and it throttles hard i have fixed it by setting manual PL of 45W and i don't get much issues.
Yeah
While this does not appear to be related to the vmin shift instability, it sucks that the solution is always to settle for less performance than was advertised, and paid for.
We are well past playing the blame game. Intel is at fault and eventually admitted it. I don't know what kind of solace desktop users are supposed to take from superior "tinkering" capabilities? It certainly didn't stop their CPUs from breaking. Hell, Jay had his completely manually tuned and it went belly up. It just reads like yet another attempt to put the blame anywhere but where it belongs; squarely on Intel.
for this case i doubt so for VMIN sure
well CPU companies specifies the range it is upto OEMs to configure the chips based on their cooling capabilities at least the race to sleep is going away on Intel platform finally with LNL/PTL it won't be missed for sure.
From the comments on Jay's video -
What did he think was going to happen?
What did he think was going to happen?
I am up to 4 different Raptor Lake CPUs (14700K, 14600K, 14600K, 14400F). So far none of them have spontaneously raptured (yet) but they are performing light duty as F@H GPU hosts (1-2 thread typical workloads) and as secondary gaming rig so it's not like they're being thrashed all the time. They are also running enforced Intel defaults with BIOSes introduced after vmin shift instability fixes. So theoretically a best-case scenario.
Considering rebates, bundled parts, and free games most of the GPU hosts cost me less than $300 for mobo/cpu/ram and that's for a PCIe 5.0 primary slot and a 4x4 second gpu slot which isn't too limiting for most DC work (lots of cheap Z790/Z690 boards). Time will tell if I got a good deal or not haha.
Considering rebates, bundled parts, and free games most of the GPU hosts cost me less than $300 for mobo/cpu/ram and that's for a PCIe 5.0 primary slot and a 4x4 second gpu slot which isn't too limiting for most DC work (lots of cheap Z790/Z690 boards). Time will tell if I got a good deal or not haha.
Perhaps they are ideal for DC projects like that? I also see users that won the silicon lottery and have been running theirs overclocked for a couple years now.
There are workloads that crush them fast though. A 15-25% failure rate during S.I. internal testing was catastrophic stuff. And IIRC it was edge servers that one Enterprise S.I. said had a failure rate of 100% within 6 months. That's the one that told Wendell Intel just kept throwing trays of CPUs at them. Which meant man hours and downtime.
I would risk it too, given the 5 year warranty and that it would be back up systems for me and not my main. But for a workflow or main system? They would have to pay me to use Raptor Lake.
There are workloads that crush them fast though. A 15-25% failure rate during S.I. internal testing was catastrophic stuff. And IIRC it was edge servers that one Enterprise S.I. said had a failure rate of 100% within 6 months. That's the one that told Wendell Intel just kept throwing trays of CPUs at them. Which meant man hours and downtime.
I would risk it too, given the 5 year warranty and that it would be back up systems for me and not my main. But for a workflow or main system? They would have to pay me to use Raptor Lake.
We can use raptor lake for tracing weather better than supercomputer and save million of dollars
Io Magnesso
Senior member
No
should go bankrupt
This original tweet doesn't mention the word "Even with a Fixed Raptor Lake" at all.
I can't tell from the words of the original tweeter to determine whether it's a fixed Raptor individual or an unfixed Raptor individual...
But Intel must go bankrupt as atonement
And all Intel employees must be obliged to be persecuted as a joint responsibility…
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poke01
Diamond Member
end of client x86 then
Not really you actually don't know how much they have driven the industry
Calm down this is no fault of employees but the management punishing someone who doesn't have done anything is not right.
Io Magnesso
Senior member
Ah! I see... that's not good...
I feel like I'm going insane when ARM, who has done negative campaigns against open sources in the past, takes sovereignty...
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