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Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

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Mid 2026 might be on cards if AMD gets serious about next gen - which they ought to be and pull all the stops

People say this stuff but it's near impossible to significantly pull in these kinds of schedules. The timelines for the next gen are likely already mapped out, and what AMD does or doesn't do won't have a significant impact on them.

If AMD drops something unexpected early, all that NVidia would change is the timing and composition of the 50 series Super cards.
 
Does anyone know what process next gen would be (Rubin)? 2nm?

N3P probably, maybe N3X. N2 no.

As you see with this, I'd expect die sizes to remain constant or smaller. Except for the xx2 model which could be bigger as it is not quite at the reticle limit.
 
Nodes are increasing in price and complexity, NV wants fat margins, the competition is in tatters... I have no idea how anything could point to them suddenly changing their ~24+month schedule that's been in place for a long time.
 
Will the RTX 5070 have worse performance per watt than the RTX 4070 Super?

Does kind of look that way. I assume you posed the question because they appear to have similar performance, and the 4070S is 220W card, and 5070 is a 250W card...

They are probably pushing the 5070 clocks to make up for the missing Shader Cores.
 
The competition is in shambles. That's why they're stuck in low-margin mid-tier. They suck big time.

This is shaping up to be a decent AMD release from my perspective. I wish I could have held out for another generation (I got a 4070). Good chance I would have got a 9070 instead of 5070.
 
I wonder if "Jayztwocents" knows the 5090 is not to the 4090 as the 5080 is to the 4080S. The 5090 is the only significant upgrade in the line up and possibly the worst example to extrapolate from.
He must know it. It's his job.

Uh, its Jay. He told people to buy up 3090's at $1200 before the crash. Then walked it back then forward again when prices did indeed go up as supply dried up a few months later. Like normal. Sucks though if you lost out on $200-300 when they dropped a month after his advice.

He also drilled a hole in a mobo once hoping it would still work. It didn't but clicks I guess.

Also Jay vs GPU fix, with Rossman watching in horror. Good comedy at least and clicks for all.

 
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