Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[poke01]

Well, there's a niche for it for new systems from now until NVL bLLC and Z6 X3D launch. I guess this is a very small market and even smaller now due to memory shortages. And I suspect it'll be very hard to justify at whatever price AMD wants for it.

No there is NO market for this but suckers.

 

[adroc_thurston]

No there is NO market for this but suckers.

This isn't the first idiot-bait refresh AMD has done.

 

[gdansk]

This isn't the first idiot-bait refresh AMD has done.

It seems more idiotic than usual but maybe that's only because Intel is avoiding the most questionable part of its planned refresh line-up.

 

[Abwx]

AMD doesn't list the PPT anywhere for this part (nor price) BUT this is the first part to list a 200W TDP. All previous 9950X/7950X variants are 170W TDP but ranged from 200-232W PPT.

These two CPUs have same 170W TDP but different PPTs, 200W PPT for the 9950X and 230W PPT for the 7950X, there s no 9950X that has a 230W PPT unless it was overclocked.

Anyway the AM5 230W max power is the limit, and as said it would be counterproductive to release
a CPU that is not fully compatible with the existing MBs, so about 100% sure that it will be 200W TDP/230W PPT.

 

[adroc_thurston]

It seems more idiotic than usual but maybe that's only because Intel is avoiding the most questionable part of its planned refresh line-up.

No, 3000XT was dumber.

 

[luro]

This looks more like a show off to me. Like “look we can make even biggier cache CPUs”.

 

[gdansk]

This looks more like a show off to me. Like “look we can make even biggier cache CPUs”.

Didn't they already do that with e.g. Milan X years ago? 768MB L3 not big enough?
This shows nothing new. Except that they can throw more silicon at stupid SKUs. Now if they had a two layer stack that'd be new to market.

 

[coercitiv]

This looks more like a show off to me. Like “look we can make even biggier cache CPUs”.

We asked for it.

 

[luro]

Didn't they already do that with e.g. Milan X years ago? 768MB L3 not big enough?
This shows nothing new. Except that they can throw more silicon at stupid SKUs. Now if they had a two layer stack that'd be new to market.

I mean for gamers. I don’t think most client CPU buyers knows what a Milan-X is.
Looks like pure marketing strategy

 

[Saylick]

I find it funny how silly gamers were asking for a flagship dual X3D chip from the get-go all while AMD has repeatedly said that it wouldn't help gaming whatsoever, and now that this SKU is out the same people say it's a waste of money.