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Joe NYC said:
Yup, precisely. For those who have been following the industry for some decades, this would have been hard to even imagine.
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Well, AFAIR a guy from then AMDZone lost his job (Dell) ‘cos he was maintaining AMDZone on his spare time.

Dell really had no choice IMO
 
Dell did dip their toes into the AMD pool back in the Athlon days if you remember. But when the water got cold (Bulldozer) they got out.
 
Thibsie said:
Well, AFAIR a guy from then AMDZone lost his job (Dell) ‘cos he was maintaining AMDZone on his spare time.

Dell really had no choice IMO
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I remember AMD Zone. I also remember the guy running it was in Texas. But I did not know he lost his job with Dell because of the AMDZone website...
 
Schmide said:
That's not how it happened. They produced a whole line of FX laptops and cheep desktops.

I have a Dell Inspiron 5565 with a A12-9700P.
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Intel paid Dell to be an Intel exclusive seller of Intel CPU's. They gave Dell rebates on Intel CPU's that made the cost next to nothing. There were lawsuits. Someone from Dell said Intel was the best friend a company could have.

Today AMD is the big gun on the block. AMD (Zen5) wipes the floor against Intel server chips. Consumer chips (Zen5) are a different story but AMD still wins. The X3D chips are easily the best gaming chip but their performance in all other areas are lacking against non x3D CPU's.

Back in the day Nvidia made the Nforce chipsets for AMD motherboards.
 
Hans Gruber said:
Intel paid Dell to be an Intel exclusive seller of Intel CPU's. They gave Dell rebates on Intel CPU's that made the cost next to nothing. There were lawsuits. Someone from Dell said Intel was the best friend a company could have.
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The wording was actualy the best friend money could buy.
 
Hans Gruber said:
Intel paid Dell to be an Intel exclusive seller of Intel CPU's. They gave Dell rebates on Intel CPU's that made the cost next to nothing. There were lawsuits. Someone from Dell said Intel was the best friend a company could have.

Today AMD is the big gun on the block. AMD (Zen5) wipes the floor against Intel server chips. Consumer chips (Zen5) are a different story but AMD still wins. The X3D chips are easily the best gaming chip but their performance in all other areas are lacking against non x3D CPU's.

Back in the day Nvidia made the Nforce chipsets for AMD motherboards.
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Your timeline is off for bulldozer. The kickbacks were turn of the century. The lawsuits half a decade later. Then FTC judgement. A few years later bulldozer comes out. Dell waited till Edit: Kaveri (Steamroller) to make systems.

I was just pointing out that bulldozer was not the point where Dell jumped out.
 
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Schmide said:
Your timeline is off for bulldozer. The kickbacks were turn of the century. The lawsuits half a decade later. Then FTC judgement. A few years later bulldozer comes out. Dell waited till Steamroller to make systems.

I was just pointing out that bulldozer was not the point where Dell jumped out.
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I never mentioned bulldozer or mentioned a specific timeline for any of this. I will mention Core2Duo was amazing. Thus, I wasn't around for bulldozer.
 
Bribes date back from 2000-2001, the case of european chain stores Saturn is well known particularly in Germany, their name in France was Hypermedia and a shop keeper from this store told me in 2001 that they signed a contract with Intel that underlined that they wouldnt sell AMD based hardware.

The deal was that Intel would pay for 50% of their advertisement with the ad mentioning Intel in exchange of not selling AMD hardware, they did put a single sloppy AMD K6 laptop on the shelves as a cover, the guy told me that from time to time an Intel s sales force man did visit the shop to check if there wasnt an AMD PC on the shelves.
 
Hans Gruber said:
The FX processor thing with Dell was before the Intel deal with Dell. That's why I replied to your post. It's been a long time but AMD has righted their ship in the last 10 years.
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Intel deal with Dell, and also with HP, date from the Opteron 64, and even before, that long predate the FX era, Intel made all they can to keep AMD from entering the server market, HP aknowldged that they refused 200k free Opteron 64 from AMD to initiate manufacturing because of fear of Intel s coercition.
 
Abwx said:
Intel deal with Dell, and also with HP, date from the Opteron 64, and even before, that long predate the FX era, Intel made all they can to keep AMD from entering the server market, HP aknowldged that they refused 200k free Opteron 64 from AMD to initiate manufacturing because of fear of Intel s coercition.
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And now AMD is blowing Intel out of the server market, no bribes needed

I have a couple of their best..... the 9755 is an Intel killer
 
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