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Iranian Revolution in 2022/2026?

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Again, the 25th amendment is more difficult to implement than impeachment and removal.

Read all the way to the bottom.

AMENDMENT XXV​

Passed by Congress July 6, 1965. Ratified February 10, 1967.

Note: Article II, section 1, of the Constitution was affected by the 25th amendment.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
 
redpill said:
I didn't say that. Where did you get that from?

I guess, to be clear, normally I don't care what's going on in Iran. Yes, they are a repressive regime - particularly for women. But if they are not bothering us, then I don't really care for us to be involved. Same with Saudi Arabia. I don't want the US to be the world's police force, or some sort of expeditionary force for democracy.

Please don't put words in my mouth in the future. This whole situation is FUBAR and I don't want anyone to die because of it.
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Here's what you said. I'll bold and italicize it for you, just in case.
redpill said:
Well, f*ck. Now would be a good time for someone to have a stroke, much as I hate to say that. All I see are coffins draped in the stars and stripes :cry:

I really don't care much about Iran, except for keeping it from getting a nuclear weapon. Geez.
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If you want people to think you care about iran, then dont say the opposite of that.

If you say "i dont care about iran", dont act shocked or outraged when people take you at your word. Its literally what you said.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Saw another article that the Pentagon is going to deploy another 10k ground troops to "give more options". Just another round of escalating stupidity.

(Stolen from BS)
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Just an FYI for people that the Iraq 2003 buildup was about 600K coalition personnel for a less populous, less well armed, less mountainous, less furious country.

Think of this one as “huge Afghanistan”.
 
amenx said:
30-40k people killed in the protests is an example of that disinfo. I have no doubt there are genuine resistors to the regime, but what % they make is unknown.

Furthermore, Israel (and unwittingly the US), is not after regime change. They know that whoever comes after the regime may not be friendly or disposed to Israel/US, even if they are moderates or seculars.
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I cited the number the guy gave me, I didn't fact-check.
They may not believe in Israel/US good intents, I certainly don't, but they may look at it in a more opportunistic fashion, silver lining if you will.
I don't like either side, hence the mixed feelings.
 
K1052 said:
Just an FYI for people that the Iraq 2003 buildup was about 600K coalition personnel for a less populous, less well armed, less mountainous, less furious country.

Think of this one as “huge Afghanistan”.
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heck, even huge Afghanistan had people helping the US Army, now there will be very few people helping them
 
trenchfoot said:
Why is it I get the notion that Bibi is laughing his ass off at the thought of getting Trump in so much deeper shit than he is in. He sure played Trump good and proper.
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Bibis big fear is that if things go further south for the US there may be a big spike in voices saying No War for Israel even among the MAGA base and blame will increasingly shift to him and Israel for pulling the US into it.

Thats why the MSM (on Israels behalf) have lately been pointing fingers towards MBS saying he is the main warmonger influencing Trump to continue the war. Never mind that the region and his country sits on a powder keg where the slightest miscalculation can see it all go up in flames.
 
K1052 said:
I think a few things are true regarding the domestic situation in Iran:

1) There is substantial dissatisfaction with the regime.
2) Trump encouraged uprising said he'd help and did not. People got killed.
3) As a result, while unhappy, a lot of people are not willing to take the risk again at present.
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4) From my understanding, due to the number of leaders of the regime that have been taken out, the hardliners in the IRGC have been able to cement their power.
 
thilanliyan said:
I agree like I said it's anecdotal but you saw the scale of the protests this time, and every few years going back 15-20 yrs...the people really don't like the regime. From my interactions with Iranians, I think they'd be fine if they were left alone by the regime, but they've infected every part of their lives that matter especially the economy, it's basically become a kleptocracy where the majority of wealth goes to the leaders (Mojtaba Khamanei supposedly has a nice real estate portfolio in London, UK) and the IRGC. The sanctions of course have not helped the average person one bit, but if your gov't motto is "Death to America/Death to Israel", how can the world at large be expected to play nice with you?

My 80-90% don't support the regime figure comes from lots of talking heads (including ones that appear to be "neutral" and are not supportive of this latest military action) and my own interactions with Iranians since I'm married to one (this is from people inside and outside Iran). Also if you do a google search on it, this figure is widely cited. You can argue Google is western media I suppose, but not sure where else to get this data.

Analytical Report on “Iranians’ Political Preferences in 2024” – Gamaan

gamaan.org gamaan.org
From 2024, from a Dutch non-profit. First "good" google link I could find.
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Awww they hate America after it overthrew their democratically elected government for cheap access to oil. What irrational savages.
 
amenx said:
What a buffoon..

https://twitter.com/x/status/2037185126015119540
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What a dipshit, making a small nuke is insanely difficult as you have extremely tight timings on the implosion to squeeze the fissile material in a small enough volume to make it super critical. No one is going to be able to build a nuke small enough to fit in a backpack before they can engineer a larger one to put on a missile which is way easier to build the implosion mechanism for.
 
thilanliyan said:
I agree like I said it's anecdotal but you saw the scale of the protests this time, and every few years going back 15-20 yrs...the people really don't like the regime. From my interactions with Iranians, I think they'd be fine if they were left alone by the regime, but they've infected every part of their lives that matter especially the economy, it's basically become a kleptocracy where the majority of wealth goes to the leaders (Mojtaba Khamanei supposedly has a nice real estate portfolio in London, UK) and the IRGC.
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Now replace that with USA and Maga and Trump family.

The USA will become a theocratic kleptocracy if there is no prison time for every one of the current Trump admin.
 
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