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US defense insider: Trump Has Already Rigged the 2028 Presidential Election’

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fskimospy said:
I don't think so - doing this would not allow him to falsify the results in any remotely credible way (and if you don't care about credibility then all this is unnecessary anyway).

Election subversion is definitely a threat but it's going to take the form of thugs intimidating voters and things like that. It could also be pressure for republican officials to not certify their losses and such. Outright falsification of ballots is just not particularly likely and the idea of cancelling elections seems flat out absurd to me.
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They aren't going to cancel the election or likely flip actual votes. Subversion is the weapon of choice and Trump is doing it NOW.
 
I bet some people didn't think that it would be possible to be murdering white American citizens on the streets of a city, for doing nothing illegal, or kidnap them, or tear them out of their homes either, with basically zero repercussions, within the first year of being in office, but here we are. These are the same schmucks saying they won't be able to steal the election either.

Do not listen to the fools.
 
Perknose said:
Just another reminder of the fucking world we live in. 🙁
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May I suggest there is a paradox here….. when you say fucking world where does that fucking world exist? Isn’t it’s fucked nature a quality that exists in your head just as beauty exists in the eye of the beholder. Are you not experiencing three worlds ar the same time, whatever reality actually is, the limited portion of which we can detect with our senses, the awareness our minds construct from the flow of that data and the fucked part that exists as a habituated attitude based on past memories and experiences that create emotional pain, the feeling the data produces that we are fucked, the self you bring to the theater the data creates. What is when you are not?What was before you were conditioned? What was the reality that existed before you had words, concepts, thoughts that are the interpretation of what you are seeing.

Is that not all an acquisition of your personal interpretation of reality the crystallized attitudes created over time that create the illusion of a unique individual and separate you? Is not the world fucked because you acquired memes about it that trigger the feeling of a self living in hell?

But you acquired all that, did you not? Are you the accumulation of experience or the blank slate on which it is written? Which is the real you?

I think this is why knowing is not acquisition but unlearning what you believe. Are we what was written or each letter anew free from our interpretive past.

I rember seeing a video of a young chimpanzee falling over backward having stuck its fingers in its ass and smelling them. What is more life affirming than the smell of our own farts? Enjoy your day. Our survived the past and the future is always coming but never here. To be born is to be thrown off a tall building. Life is on the ride down.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Don't be so negative. We need powerful leaders not weak knee double speaking politicians and bureaucrats.
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Right. I am so worthless personally, I need to hide in the shadow of a giant rather than trusting myself. In fact my sense of self worthlessness is so great that any old asshole that says he is a giant will do. That’s because my own judgment is so worthlessly poor, I would never know a real giant unless if I saw one. I need both the word of the giant and other worthless people like me who also agree. Safety in the herd or cult. Worship makes me feel important and I need that real bad.
 
Moonbeam said:
Right. I am so worthless personally, I need to hide in the shadow of a giant rather than trusting myself. In fact my sense of self worthlessness is so great that any old asshole that says he is a giant will do. That’s because my own judgment is so worthlessly poor, I would never know a real giant unless if I saw one. I need both the word of the giant and other worthless people like me who also agree. Safety in the herd or cult. Worship makes me feel important and I need that real bad.
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Just this weekend a Democrat beat a MAGA Republican...in Texas... in a run off election.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Just this weekend a Democrat beat a MAGA Republican...in Texas... in a run off election.y do I suffer
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You know, I hope, that I do not blame you for your conservative values. I am profoundly conservative when it comes to values. The only difference between me and typical conservatives is that owing to reasons I find hard to understand, I needed to know that my conservative values were absolutely right. That led me on a long search thet culminated in the loss of faith. My values were no more right or wrong in an absolutely provable way than anything I considered immoral.

That left me wondering, what is the source of the need to be right. Why do my ideals persist in the feeling they are real and why do I suffer the feeling that without absolute truth life is meaningless.

So one night in deep introspection on these issues I had a strange experience. A blast of wind shook my room and all questions disappeared. The question of meaning is as meaningless as everything else. The truth is when the questions regarding its nature disappear. What people regard as absolute truth is instinctual. It is my being, my human nature. It is and can’t ever not be. It is only hidden by emotional needs, the hidden fear of feeling worthless, that my existence is a drag on the universe. I left belief and doubt in the sudden appearance of knowing. There is no right or wrong, no doubt or certainty as the need for them is a delusion l was conditioned to believes is needed.

So now I have no need of proof because I do not believe. The nature of morality as I was taught, while sourced in the fact that morality is real, has no relationship to what I was conditioned to believe. The loss of faith, the loss of moral certainty is actually the loss of arrogant self righteousness and hideous bias. In the loss of the garbage you were taught must be believed to have self worth in the eyes of other programmed drones, real self respect can find root and grow. You sit on a treasure chest, the kingdom of heaven. All that is needed is to die to the need garbage you were spoon fed to lock you up in prison. Fly away. You will not be alone. God is within you.

I worked very very hard not to know any of this and failed. I wish you similar failure.
 
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Moonbeam said:
You know, I hope, that I do not blame you for your conservative values. I am profoundly conservative when it comes to values. The only difference between me and typical conservatives is that owing to reasons I find hard to understand, I needed to know that my conservative values were absolutely right. That led me on a long search thet culminated in the loss of faith. My values were no more right or wrong in an absolutely provable way than anything I considered immoral.

That left me wondering, what is the source of the need to be right. Why do my ideals persist in the feeling they are real and why do I suffer the feeling that without absolute truth life is meaningless.

So one night in deep introspection on these issues I had a strange experience. A blast of wind shook my room and all questions disappeared. The question of meaning is as meaningless as everything else. The truth is when the questions regarding its nature disappear. What people regard as absolute truth is instinctual. It is my being, my human nature. It is and can’t ever not be. It is only hidden by emotional needs, the hidden fear of feeling worthless, that my existence is a drag on the universe. I left belief and doubt in the sudden appearance of knowing. There is no right or wrong, no doubt or certainty as the need for them is a delusion l was conditioned to believes is needed.

So now I have no need of proof because I do not believe. The nature of morality as I was taught, while sourced in the fact that morality is real, has no relationship to what I was conditioned to believe. The loss of faith, the loss of moral certainty is actually the loss of arrogant self righteousness and hideous bias. In the loss of the garbage you were taught must be believed to have self worth in the eyes of other programmed drones, real self respect can find root and grow. You sit on a treasure chest, the kingdom of heaven. All that is needed is to die to the need garbage you were spoon fed to lock you up in prison. Fly away. You will not be alone. God is within you.

I worked very very hard not to know any of this and failed. I wish you similar failure.
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Sometimes you can overthink things. Get swept away in emotions. I do this too outside this forum. My thoughts are pretty dark sometimes. If it were up to me there would be less than 1 billion people left. Overpopulation is bad for Earth.

Despite all this and the Bibles admonition to "not kill" I try to help as many people as I can the older I get. Almost everything I do comes back to me. So I try to do and say good things. Help random people. Give good advice. Give money to worthy causes and homeless.

If I wish someone well in one place ...I will go somewhere and THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS are said back to me usually the same day somewhere else by totally different strangers. Weird ...man!

We are spirits in physical form. We will return to spirits. Make sure you wind up with the good ones. 😉
 
FelixDeCat said:
Sometimes you can overthink things. Get swept away in emotions. I do this too outside this forum. My thoughts are pretty dark sometimes. If it were up to me there would be less than 1 billion people left. Overpopulation is bad for Earth.

Despite all this and the Bibles admonition to "not kill" I try to help as many people as I can the older I get. Almost everything I do comes back to me. So I try to do and say good things. Help random people. Give good advice. Give money to worthy causes and homeless.

If I wish someone well in one place ...I will go somewhere and THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS are said back to me usually the same day somewhere else by totally different strangers. Weird ...man!

We are spirits in physical form. We will return to spirits. Make sure you wind up with the good ones. 😉
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Hey, man, didn't the Bible tell us to be fruitful and multiply or something? You're questioning God's wisdom and imperatives?
Who am I kidding, what do you know about the Bible?
Matthew 25:31-45
 
nakedfrog said:
Hey, man, didn't the Bible tell us to be fruitful and multiply or something? You're questioning God's wisdom and imperatives?
Who am I kidding, what do you know about the Bible?
Matthew 25:31-45
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We've multiplied like crazy that's for sure. Some of us multiply just for the fun of it then leave it to the government to pay for it because we don't stick around to raise them or pay child support.

Some of us even have 10 to 15 kids with 10 or 15 different men. I dunno man. There outta be a law or some kind of way to keep irresponsible procreation from happening. But no. You get gigantic hand outs. Outlandish tax refunds or credits per kid...like this 1800s rural America.

And if you are really smart and don't mind tempting fate, you can claim your home is a daycare and apply for government funds. If you have the guts you can even open a Quality Learing Center, senior center and transportation company. Once you get the millions just smuggle bulk cash to your favorite non extradition country and you've got it made!

But I didn't say anything.
 
FelixDeCat said:
We've multiplied like crazy that's for sure. Some of us multiply just for the fun of it then leave it to the government to pay for it because we don't stick around to raise them or pay child support.

Some of us even have 10 to 15 kids with 10 or 15 different men. I dunno man. There outta be a law or some kind of way to keep irresponsible procreation from happening. But no. You get gigantic hand outs. Outlandish tax refunds or credits per kid...like this 1800s rural America.

And if you are really smart and don't mind tempting fate, you can claim your home is a daycare and apply for government funds. If you have the guts you can even open a Quality Learing Center, senior center and transportation company. Once you get the millions just smuggle bulk cash to your favorite non extradition country and you've got it made!

But I didn't say anything.
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I see, so you DO know better than God.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Sometimes you can overthink things. Get swept away in emotions. I do this too outside this forum. My thoughts are pretty dark sometimes. If it were up to me there would be less than 1 billion people left. Overpopulation is bad for Earth.

Despite all this and the Bibles admonition to "not kill" I try to help as many people as I can the older I get. Almost everything I do comes back to me. So I try to do and say good things. Help random people. Give good advice. Give money to worthy causes and homeless.

If I wish someone well in one place ...I will go somewhere and THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS are said back to me usually the same day somewhere else by totally different strangers. Weird ...man!

We are spirits in physical form. We will return to spirits. Make sure you wind up with the good ones. 😉
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I have to think about how to say what I know that I know without thinking. The finger pointing at the moon is not the moon. There is the moon we can speek of in words and the witnessing of it.
 
HomerJS said:
I hate to keep harping on this but I think you are severely underplaying the looming danger.
Bodycam footage of the FBI at Fulton County. They had the search warrant wrong but feds said it doesn't matter we are taking them anyway.
https://twitter.com/x/status/2018703874874384528
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Gutting the VRA and the impending SAVE Act will pretty much wrap it up for them. No shenanigans, intimidation or patrolling of voting places even needed.
 
MrSquished said:
I bet some people didn't think that it would be possible to be murdering white American citizens on the streets of a city, for doing nothing illegal, or kidnap them, or tear them out of their homes either, with basically zero repercussions, within the first year of being in office, but here we are. These are the same schmucks saying they won't be able to steal the election either.

Do not listen to the fools.
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Most people lack the imagination. Even 10 years into this now.
 
Pens1566 said:
While I agree, it doesn't mean that they aren't going to try it. They're pretty good about telling everyone exactly what they're gonna do before hand.
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I think that messing with the tabulation stage is much more likely than what Bannon is talking about. Sending the FBI to election offices to disrupt counting/destroy ballots and data seems more probable. They might not get out of the city alive though.
 
K1052 said:
I think that messing with the tabulation stage is much more likely than what Bannon is talking about. Sending the FBI to election offices to disrupt counting/destroy ballots and data seems more probable. They might not get out of the city alive though.
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They'll do all of the above. Although my gut says they already did some of it in '24, and they just did that last one in GA. Although that was after the fact. Consider it a dry run ...
 
FelixDeCat said:
Sometimes you can overthink things. Get swept away in emotions. I do this too outside this forum. My thoughts are pretty dark sometimes. If it were up to me there would be less than 1 billion people left. Overpopulation is bad for Earth.

Despite all this and the Bibles admonition to "not kill" I try to help as many people as I can the older I get. Almost everything I do comes back to me. So I try to do and say good things. Help random people. Give good advice. Give money to worthy causes and homeless.

If I wish someone well in one place ...I will go somewhere and THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS are said back to me usually the same day somewhere else by totally different strangers. Weird ...man!

We are spirits in physical form. We will return to spirits. Make sure you wind up with the good ones. 😉
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For the record what the Bible says about hypocrisy

Matthew 23:27–28

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs… on the outside you appear righteous, but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.”
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